Is Back to the Future the Clearest Explanation of Time Travel in Film?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the portrayal of time travel in films, specifically comparing "Back to the Future" (BTTF) with other works such as "Primer" and various writings by Robert Heinlein. Participants explore the effectiveness of these representations in explaining time travel concepts, touching on both cinematic and literary examples.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Exploratory
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants argue that Doc Brown's explanation of time travel in BTTF2 is the best cinematic representation of the concept.
  • Others contend that "Primer" provides a superior explanation of time travel, citing its internal consistency and lack of logical issues compared to BTTF.
  • A participant highlights Heinlein's works, particularly "By His Bootstraps" and "All You Zombies," as exemplary time travel narratives that effectively explore complex timelines.
  • Another participant recalls H.G. Wells' "The Time Machine" as an influential early work of science fiction that addresses time travel, though there is debate about who the first science fiction author is.
  • Concerns are raised about plot holes in BTTF, with references to websites dedicated to analyzing these inconsistencies.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing opinions on the clarity and effectiveness of time travel explanations in BTTF versus other works. No consensus is reached regarding which representation is superior, and multiple competing views remain present throughout the discussion.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes references to various literary works and their interpretations, which may depend on individual perspectives and definitions of time travel. The complexity of time travel narratives and their logical consistency is a recurring theme.

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Doc Brown's explanation of time travel on the blackboard, in BTTF2, the best explanation of time travel I have seen in any movie.
 
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gopolks said:
Doc Brown's explanation of time travel on the blackboard, in BTTF2, the best explanation of time travel I have seen in any movie.

This is unfortunate. Primer does a much better job. And several Heinlein books go even further: Time Enough For Love and ...All Your Zombies specifically. Even Isaac Asimov acknowledge that Heinlein was the best science fiction writer and would continue to hold that title until he died (Source: http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2009/04/heinlein-pulp-greatness/#.Ui8wp8ZjuSo)

If you find the fictional representation of time travel interesting then you should take some time and look towards the great authors who have done it justice.

That being said, everyone loves Back to the Future, AMIRIGHT?
 
FlexGunship said:
This is unfortunate. Primer does a much better job.
Primer does a better job at explaining time travel? Are you serious?

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...and that is even disregarding the fact that there was no such explanation in the film.
 
FlexGunship said:
This is unfortunate. Primer does a much better job. And several Heinlein books go even further: Time Enough For Love and ...All Your Zombies specifically. Even Isaac Asimov acknowledge that Heinlein was the best science fiction writer and would continue to hold that title until he died (Source: http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2009/04/heinlein-pulp-greatness/#.Ui8wp8ZjuSo)

If you find the fictional representation of time travel interesting then you should take some time and look towards the great authors who have done it justice.

That being said, everyone loves Back to the Future, AMIRIGHT?

I still think Heinlein's short story "By His Bootstraps" is the best time travel story I've ever read. At one point there are four versions of the main character, each on his own timeline, all talking to each other trying to figure out what's going on. And yes, "Back to the Future" is great.
 
as soon as i hear i only remember about the book where a man invents a machine that could travel in time .he goes into the past where his machine will be lost . he somehow manages to find his machine he soon travels to the future and he sees that ,earth would be a worst place to live in .he comes back to his own time .it's an extraordinary novel .it was written by h g wells the first science fiction author.
 
rshreyas said:
as soon as i hear i only remember about the book where a man invents a machine that could travel in time .he goes into the past where his machine will be lost . he somehow manages to find his machine he soon travels to the future and he sees that ,earth would be a worst place to live in .he comes back to his own time .it's an extraordinary novel .it was written by h g wells the first science fiction author.

That novel is "The Time Machine". And he's hardly the first sci fi author. Even Jules Verne started writing years before him.

The first sci fi author or work is difficult to pin down - even the Sumerian Epic of Gilgamesh has been cited as the first sci fi work, but most would just consider it mythology.
 
phyzguy said:
I still think Heinlein's short story "By His Bootstraps" is the best time travel story I've ever read. At one point there are four versions of the main character, each on his own timeline, all talking to each other trying to figure out what's going on. And yes, "Back to the Future" is great.

...All You Zombies is the revised title (in short story form) for By His Bootstraps. Same character and story.

Bandersnatch said:
Primer does a better job at explaining time travel? Are you serious?
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...and that is even disregarding the fact that there was no such explanation in the film.

Primer's rules for time travel are consistent within the movie (as opposed to Back to the Future). Regardless of the complexity of the situations, Primer doesn't really have any logical issues. BttF has entire websites devoted to the comical plot holes.

http://www.denofgeek.us/movies/16532/the-plot-holes-and-paradoxes-of-the-back-to-the-future-trilogy
 
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