Is Big Pharma Losing Money by Donating 1,000,000 Pills to the Destitute?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the financial implications for pharmaceutical companies when donating a large quantity of pills, specifically 1,000,000 pills, to the destitute instead of selling them at a price of $10 each to insured patients. The conversation touches on various factors including potential losses, investor reactions, legal liabilities, and marketing strategies.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that the maximum loss from giving away the pills could be $10,000,000, based on the selling price.
  • Others argue that the financial impact could be greater due to potential investor reactions and stock price fluctuations resulting from reported profit drops.
  • Concerns are raised about legal liabilities if recipients of the donated pills experience adverse reactions and decide to sue the company.
  • One participant notes that while the initial manufacturing costs are low, the overall financial implications depend on broader market dynamics and potential increases in sales from positive public relations.
  • Another viewpoint emphasizes that the cost of drug development is significant, and once recovered, the marginal cost of additional pills is minimal.
  • There is a mention of a historical example where a pharmaceutical company donated a much larger quantity of drugs, suggesting that large donations can occur in the industry.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the financial consequences of donating pills versus selling them, with no consensus reached on the overall impact or the best approach for pharmaceutical companies.

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Discussions involve assumptions about market behavior, investor psychology, and legal ramifications, which remain unresolved and may depend on specific circumstances and definitions.

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How much money does a pharmaceutical company lose by giving away 1,000,000 pills to the destitute rather than selling them at $10 each to those with insurance?
 
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Can't be more than $10,000,000 :biggrin:

Should this be in the math forums?
 
I withdraw this thread.
 
Actually, it could be quite a bit more. How do you think investors would react to a company reporting that its profits have dropped by millions of dollars? Wouldn't the stock price of the company go down, lowering the value of the company? It seems like the stock market may offer strong incentives not to give away free drugs to the poor.
 
Loren Booda said:
How much money does a pharmaceutical company lose by giving away 1,000,000 pills to the destitute rather than selling them at $10 each to those with insurance?

Depends if any of those 1,000,000 recipients have a bad reaction and sue the company.
 
Ygggdrasil said:
Actually, it could be quite a bit more. How do you think investors would react to a company reporting that its profits have dropped by millions of dollars? Wouldn't the stock price of the company go down, lowering the value of the company? It seems like the stock market may offer strong incentives not to give away free drugs to the poor.

The stock price is affected by many things, and $10M is not that much when profits are in the hundreds of millions or billions. Even big corporations can be altruistic (and it's good public relations).

EDIT: The big cost is drug development. Once a drug is approved, the manufacturing costs are usually pennies on the dollar. After development costs are recovered, the price per pill is somewhat artificial. Companies can recover the costs of give-aways by raising prices elsewhere if they wish.
 
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Andy Resnick said:
Depends if any of those 1,000,000 recipients have a bad reaction and sue the company.

It's 1 million pills, not recipients. Whatever the size of the treated population, large pharmaceutical companies maintain full-time legal staffs and retainers. Usually the only real extra costs are if they lose a big case, or much worse, if they have to take a drug off the market (like Merck with Vioxx(c)).
 
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Loren Booda said:
How much money does a pharmaceutical company lose by giving away 1,000,000 pills to the destitute rather than selling them at $10 each to those with insurance?

if it costs $1 to manufacture 100 pills, then you just spent $10,000 on marketing.

if sales go up because of it, then you profit, and you never would have made a sale to the destitute in the first place (not without government healthcare, at least).
 

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