Is Bohmian Mechanics Incompatible with Free Will and the Creation of Art?

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The forum discussion centers on the compatibility of Bohmian Mechanics (BM) with free will and the derivation of Born's rule as proposed by Wojciech Zurek. Participants agree that BM naturally leads to Born's rule due to the statistical mechanics of particles evolving under the Schrödinger probability current. They emphasize that Zurek's derivation should be demonstrated with a finite number of states to validate its claims. The conversation also touches on the implications of BM for understanding quantum equilibrium and the potential for testing these theories against cosmic microwave background observations.

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  • #31
unusualname said:
I agree with everything KenG says, and his ability to post such detailed analysis (many times) should merit a 'Science Advisor' rating.

Well done, Ken - you beat me. Would you prefer nuts or a cigar?
 
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zenith8 said:
Well done, Ken - you beat me. Would you prefer nuts or a cigar?

zenith8, you're really being strange, your posts (over a couple of years) have been enlightening, educational, why this silliness now?
 
  • #33
zenith8 said:
Well done, Ken - you beat me. Would you prefer nuts or a cigar?
Nuts please, cigars scare me!
 
  • #34
unusualname said:
I agree with everything KenG says, and his ability to post such detailed analysis (many times) should merit a 'Science Advisor' rating.

I agree, now how do we go on about making it happen?
 
  • #35
unusualname said:
Actually that's probably a good basis for a "proof" that BM is wrong since Shakespeare used free-will to write Hamlet, which doesn't exist in bohmian world :wink:

Unless of course you can show me Hamlet evolving in the Bohmian deterministic equations :smile:
I don't know if you're serious about this at all, but do you really think that a deterministic explanation of Hamlet's creation couldn't be produced? It is a linguistic object. It conforms to the syntactic rules of English, and it has a conceptual content expressed according to the semantics of English. It's a reworking of an older story, by someone in the new cultural and historical context of the 1600s. The intent to produce such a reworking was produced by the desires and circumstances of the author. The reworking itself was produced by the cognitive processes of the author, harnessed towards this goal.
 

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