Is Bohmian Mechanics Incompatible with Free Will and the Creation of Art?

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Zurek's proposal regarding the derivation of Born's rule in quantum mechanics is discussed, with a focus on its compatibility with Bohmian Mechanics (BM). In BM, Born's rule emerges naturally as the highest entropy state, where Bohmian particles evolve to follow the square of the guiding wave function, akin to classical particles reaching thermal equilibrium. Critics argue that Zurek's assumptions may not hold in all measurement scenarios, particularly in cases where measurements destroy the state being measured. The conversation also touches on the philosophical implications of determinism in BM and the potential for non-deterministic interpretations that still align with experimental predictions. Overall, the discussion highlights the ongoing debate about the foundations of quantum mechanics and the implications for free will and artistic creation.
  • #31
unusualname said:
I agree with everything KenG says, and his ability to post such detailed analysis (many times) should merit a 'Science Advisor' rating.

Well done, Ken - you beat me. Would you prefer nuts or a cigar?
 
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  • #32
zenith8 said:
Well done, Ken - you beat me. Would you prefer nuts or a cigar?

zenith8, you're really being strange, your posts (over a couple of years) have been enlightening, educational, why this silliness now?
 
  • #33
zenith8 said:
Well done, Ken - you beat me. Would you prefer nuts or a cigar?
Nuts please, cigars scare me!
 
  • #34
unusualname said:
I agree with everything KenG says, and his ability to post such detailed analysis (many times) should merit a 'Science Advisor' rating.

I agree, now how do we go on about making it happen?
 
  • #35
unusualname said:
Actually that's probably a good basis for a "proof" that BM is wrong since Shakespeare used free-will to write Hamlet, which doesn't exist in bohmian world :wink:

Unless of course you can show me Hamlet evolving in the Bohmian deterministic equations :smile:
I don't know if you're serious about this at all, but do you really think that a deterministic explanation of Hamlet's creation couldn't be produced? It is a linguistic object. It conforms to the syntactic rules of English, and it has a conceptual content expressed according to the semantics of English. It's a reworking of an older story, by someone in the new cultural and historical context of the 1600s. The intent to produce such a reworking was produced by the desires and circumstances of the author. The reworking itself was produced by the cognitive processes of the author, harnessed towards this goal.
 

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