Is Curve S One-Dimensional or Two-Dimensional?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the dimensionality of a curve, specifically whether it is one-dimensional or two-dimensional. Participants explore this concept through intuitive reasoning and examples, considering both mathematical definitions and physical interpretations.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that a curve is one-dimensional, as it locally resembles a line, regardless of its embedding in higher-dimensional spaces.
  • Others argue that if one considers movement along a positively sloped curve, it may appear to involve two dimensions due to the upward movement associated with forward motion.
  • A participant introduces the notion of holomorphic curves, suggesting that such curves could be considered two-dimensional.
  • Intuitive examples are provided, such as an ant walking along a curve, to illustrate the concept of movement being restricted to one dimension.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the dimensionality of curves, with some supporting the one-dimensional perspective and others challenging it by introducing conditions or alternative interpretations. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing views present.

Contextual Notes

Some arguments depend on the definitions of dimensionality and the context in which curves are considered, such as their embedding in higher-dimensional spaces. The discussion also highlights the ambiguity in interpreting movement along curves.

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Is a curve (Say 'S') 1d or 2d? I ask this question because for so long i was under the impression that it was 2d, since we need a 2d cartesian plane to draw and describe a curve. But then i read in a popular book that it was 1D, which is hard to believe. so which is it?
 
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kini.Amith said:
Is a curve (Say 'S') 1d or 2d? I ask this question because for so long i was under the impression that it was 2d, since we need a 2d cartesian plane to draw and describe a curve. But then i read in a popular book that it was 1D, which is hard to believe. so which is it?

A curve is 1-dimensinal --- it "locally" looks like a line. A small piece of a curve, looked at under an idealized microscope would look just like a small piece of an ordinary straight line.

A curve may be embedded in a 2-dimensional space or an n-dimensional space where n can be large, but the curve itself is 1-dimensional.
 
Intuitively: imagine living on a curve (forgetting about the "embedding", thinking of the curve as everything there is), then you can only go forward or backwards, i.e. moving along the curve. Phycisists would say something like "there is only one degree of freedom".
 
k. thnks
 
Never thought of it like that.
 
Landau said:
Intuitively: imagine living on a curve (forgetting about the "embedding", thinking of the curve as everything there is), then you can only go forward or backwards, i.e. moving along the curve. Phycisists would say something like "there is only one degree of freedom".
Lets say the curve is positively sloped. If you move forward (to the right), you would also be moving 'up'. Doesnt that means its 2D?
 
No, as I said you should forget about the curve being embedded in the plane, the curve 'is' the whole world. For example, an ant walking along a curve, or a tightrope walker walking along a thin rope. Then the only possible directions to go are forward and backwards; there is no 'up' or 'down'.
 
Just to stir up the haziness a bit...if a set can be described as a HOLOMORPHIC curve, then it IS 2-dimensional.
 
nice work analmux... epic win!
 

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