Is Δθ in a circle equal to the angle in a velocity vectors triangle?

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The discussion revolves around the relationship between the angle Δθ in a circular motion context and the angles formed in a triangle of velocity vectors. Participants are exploring geometric interpretations and vector relationships within this framework.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants are attempting to understand how Δθ relates to angles in velocity vectors, with some suggesting geometric considerations and others questioning the setup of the vector diagrams. There are discussions about the angles formed by the radius and velocity vectors, as well as the implications of right angles in the context.

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The discussion is active, with various interpretations being explored. Some participants have provided insights into the geometric relationships, while others are seeking clarification on specific aspects, such as the use of right angles in their reasoning. There is no explicit consensus yet, but productive dialogue is ongoing.

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Participants are working with visual aids and diagrams to support their reasoning, and there are references to potential misunderstandings in vector representation. The discussion is framed within the constraints of homework help, focusing on conceptual understanding rather than direct solutions.

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How is Δθ in circle equals to angle in velocity vectors triangle?
I tried using simple geometry but I can't.
 
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Try this:

What if r' were right on top of r? What is the angle between them? What is the angle between the velocity vectors?

Now move r' just a bit, an angle Δθ from r. How does the angle between the velocity vectors change?
 
Its because they are angles that have sides vertical to each other. r' is vertical to v' and r is vertical to v so the angle of (r',r) equals the angle of (v',v).
 
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Delta2 and Clara I appreciate your explanation but can you please describe some '90 degree usage'.
 
Another way to look at it: Realize that the velocity vectors are always 90° rotated compared to the r vectors. So if the angle that an r vector makes with the x-axis is θ, then the corresponding velocity vector must make an angle of θ + 90°.
 
Hardikph said:
Delta2 and Clara I appreciate your explanation but can you please describe some '90 degree usage'.

In the photo, θ+a = 90..(1) , a+b=90...(2), (1)-(2), θ=b , so it proves your statement "Δθ in circle equals to angle in velocity vectors triangle".
I hope it helps.
 
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Hardikph said:

One other point: the vector diagram on the right does not correspond to the vectors shown on the left.
Recall that ##\Delta \vec{v} = \vec{v}'-\vec{v}##. You also seem to have swapped the ##\vec{v}'## and the ##\vec{v}## in the diagram.
 
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