Is Every Discrete Isotropy Group of an R^n Action Isomorphic to Z/kZ?

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The discussion revolves around the properties of discrete isotropy groups in the context of actions of R^n on manifolds. Participants explore whether such groups are necessarily isomorphic to Z/kZ, where 0 <= k <= n, and the implications of these properties on the structure of the isotropy group.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions if a discrete isotropy group of an R^n action is automatically isomorphic to Z/kZ, suggesting that the discrete subgroup is a lattice.
  • Another participant asserts that the isotropy group, being a subgroup of R^n, cannot have elements of finite order, implying that discrete subgroups must resemble Zk for some k.
  • A participant seeks clarification on the claim that isotropy groups cannot be discrete, indicating confusion about the definitions being used.
  • One participant challenges the correctness of a previous statement, arguing that while subgroups of the translation group of R^n can be discrete, they cannot have elements of finite order, contrasting this with the nature of Z/kZ.
  • Another participant questions the use of the term "isotropy group," seeking to clarify its definition and implications regarding dimensionality and discreteness.
  • A participant introduces the concept of discrete subgroups of the orthogonal group O(n), noting that these groups, known as point groups, are not always abelian.
  • One participant clarifies that their group is isomorphic to R^n with addition as the operation, emphasizing the structure of the left R-action.
  • A later reply reiterates that discrete subgroups of R^n are isomorphic to Zk for some k, aligning with earlier claims.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the nature of isotropy groups, particularly regarding their discreteness and isomorphism to Z/kZ. There is no consensus on the definitions or implications of these groups.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved questions regarding the definitions of isotropy groups and the conditions under which they can be considered discrete or isomorphic to specific groups. The discussion reflects varying interpretations of group properties and their implications in the context of R^n actions.

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Quick question:

Suppose I have a (transitive) R^n action on a manifold M. If the isotropy group of R^n is discrete, does that mean that it is automatically isomorphic to Z/kZ, with 0<=k<=n?

Basically, my discrete subgroup is a lattice then, right?

Thanks!
 
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The isotropy group is a subgroup of Rn so certainly can't have elements of finite order.

It is true that discrete subgroups of Rn have to look like Zk for some k
 
Office_Shredder said:
The isotropy group is a subgroup of Rn so certainly can't have elements of finite order.

Could you elaborate on that? Dummy here. So you are saying the isotropy group of R^n cannot be discrete?
 
I believe that Office_Shredder is incorrect. He seems to be thinking about subgroups of the translations group of R^n. Since that group is itself isomorphic to R^n, its subgroups can be discrete, but they can't have elements of finite order (elements such that a^n=1 for some n), aside from the identity. Z/kZ (better known as Z_k) is finite and all its elements have finite order.

I also have to question whether you're using the term isotropy group correctly.
 
hamster143 said:
I also have to question whether you're using the term isotropy group correctly.

Why? By isotropy group at some point m\in M, I mean the {g\in G | g(m)=m}. In my result I find that dim(iso-group)=0, so it is discrete. As G=G^n, that means the isotropy group is a discrete (abelian) subgroup of G, which I kind of hoped to be isomorphic to Z^k.
 
My group is isomorphic to R^n (group operation is addition). The left R-action acts on n factors, which I write as R^n.
 
To re-iterate, discrete subgroups of Rn are isomorphic to Zk for some k no larger than n, just like you would expect
 

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