Is Everything in the Universe Made from Hydrogen Atoms?

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The discussion revolves around the composition of matter in the universe, specifically whether all substances can be traced back to hydrogen atoms and the processes involved in the formation of elements. It touches on theoretical aspects of atomic structure and the origins of elements through nuclear processes.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that everything of substance in the universe is made from combinations of hydrogen atoms, with neutrons included in all but hydrogen itself.
  • Another participant states that protons and neutrons are composed of quarks, which, along with electrons, are considered elementary particles.
  • A participant questions whether elements like carbon were originally hydrogen atoms that underwent a series of fusion processes, implying a potential lineage of elements starting from hydrogen.
  • One response asserts that protons and electrons were created in the Big Bang, leading to the formation of hydrogen atoms, and describes the nuclear fusion processes in stars that create heavier elements.
  • Another participant mentions the processes of Big Bang nucleosynthesis and stellar nucleosynthesis as relevant topics for further exploration.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying views on the origins of elements, with some agreeing on the role of hydrogen in the formation of other elements, while others introduce different perspectives on atomic composition and the processes involved. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the specifics of how elements are formed from hydrogen.

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There are limitations in the discussion regarding the assumptions made about atomic matter and the definitions of elementary particles. The pathways of element formation through fusion are mentioned but not fully detailed, leaving some mathematical and conceptual steps unresolved.

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1. Would it be true to say that everything of substance in the Universe is made up of various combinations of hydrogen atoms, with neutrons thrown into everything except hydrogen itself?

2. Are all protons, neutrons, and electrons made of the same material, and what is it called?? Atomic matter, maybe??
 
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protons and neutrons are made from quarks which along with electrons are the elementary particles
 
Perhaps I worded my question poorly---let me rephrase it, using carbon for the example. Do you think that carbon was "born" as carbon, or was it a hydrogen atom that picked up a neutron (becoming deutrium), then went through fusion 5 times with 5 other deutrium atoms, thus becoming carbon. In other words, did all the elements start off as a hydrogen atom?
 
Yes - The protons and electrons ( and some neutrons) were all created in the big bang.
A proton and an electron together form a hydrogen atom.
Stars combine hydrogen atoms together by nuclear fussion to make helium, carbon, silicon etc all the way upto iron.
(The actual pathways of which elements are conbined to get which others in what order are fairly simple. see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proton-proton_chain and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CNO_cycle)

To make anything heavier than iron you need the much higher energies of an exploding star - a supernova.
 
Cool---thanks for the answers.
 
Also you can check out "Big Bang nucleosynthesis" and "Stellar nucleosynthesis"
 

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