Is FTL Travel Possible with a Mini Cooper in an Alternate Space Network?

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The discussion revolves around the possibility of faster-than-light (FTL) travel, particularly in the context of a Mini Cooper navigating an alternate space network. Participants explore theoretical frameworks, implications of special relativity, and the nature of space and speed limits.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that special relativity limits speed due to the mass increase of objects approaching light speed, questioning the nature of this limit and proposing alternative networks that might allow for FTL travel.
  • There is speculation about the existence of different laws of physics outside our universe, with some participants considering the implications of such a scenario on FTL travel.
  • Wormholes are mentioned as a potential mechanism for FTL travel, with suggestions that they might utilize a different network that exists outside the known universe.
  • Some participants express skepticism about the speed limit of light, arguing that it seems low in the context of infinity and suggesting there may be higher speed potentials.
  • Concerns are raised about the practicality of FTL travel, including the vast distances in the galaxy and the time it would take to reach other star systems at sub-light speeds.
  • There is a discussion on the mathematical implications of infinity in relation to the speed of light, with some participants clarifying misunderstandings about ratios involving infinity.
  • One participant emphasizes that the limit of speed is derived from the Minkowski metric and the Lorentz transformation, which are foundational to special relativity.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a variety of views on the nature of speed limits and the potential for FTL travel. There is no consensus on the existence of alternative networks or the implications of infinity on speed limits, indicating ongoing debate and uncertainty.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge the speculative nature of their ideas, particularly regarding the existence of different laws of physics outside the universe and the implications for FTL travel. The discussion is limited by the assumptions inherent in their theoretical frameworks.

  • #31
graviton density

ok perhaps the gravitons may travel at some super small extra number than _c making them appear to have light speed but this is neglecting what i call "graviton wave density". under my theory the warping factor of space is proportional to the "graviton wave density", meaning that for small graviton densities there is a slight alteration in space-time but for ultra high gwd's there is a severe warping of space-time which allows the wave to travel at som large multiple of _c
 
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  • #32
Warped Space

There is one major drawback with the concept of warping space. I'm not sure whether this has been noted before.
By warping space you greatly reduce the distance between two points, for example our planet and a very large star somewhere distant.
The reduction is distance (if it could be acheived) would allow travel over long distances in relatively short periods of time.
What is true in one direction would also be true in the other.
Any large gravitational fields in the vacinity of the end of the warp or along its path would now also effect our planet. The resulting change in gravitational forces could have devistating effects.
 
  • #33


Originally posted by ThothOfAtlantis
ok if you say that gravity (gravitons) travel at _c then they must travel at some slower speed while in motion due to their gravitational effect of space-time, but since _c is the top velocity for light which has no mass then that means gravitons must then trvel at the same limit. here's the thing if gravitons are the messenger particles of gravity then they must by nature warp space as well thereby overtaking the speed of light even if the warp factor is
(1+10^-100000000000000000000000000000000) this would according to my equations (of which i am fairly confident are correct ) would go beyond light by an incredibly small amount but absolutely faster than light speed

https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=13827


not sure how you got that conclusion, but no. If a graviton travels at c then its propagation travels at c. I think you are thinking too much of a graviton as a particle, think of it as a wave, a fluctuaion in the gravitational field. That is the graviton is not separate from the propagating disturbance in space time, it is the propagating disturbance in spacetime.

In the same way light can be viewed not as a particle separate from the electromagnetic field, but as a propagating fluctuation in the electromagnetic field.
 
  • #34
string theory

according to string theory all particles including messenger particles which are made up of vibrating strings which have a definite size and therefore cannot be purely a wave. we can apply this to gluons, photons and gravitons to say that they have a size whereas waves do not

or something to that effect
 

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