Is Grad-Level E&M a Risk for a Serious Physics Student?

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The discussion centers on the challenges and considerations of taking graduate-level Electromagnetism (E&M) as an undergraduate student preparing for graduate school in physics. Participants explore the implications of course selection on academic performance and graduate school applications, as well as the importance of consulting academic advisors.

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  • One participant expresses concern about the risk of receiving a grade below an A in graduate-level E&M, despite a recent improvement in academic performance.
  • Another participant emphasizes the importance of discussing academic decisions with an advisor, questioning whether the original poster has sought such guidance.
  • There is a suggestion that the original poster's academic standing and the competitiveness of the graduate courses are unknown factors that could influence their decision.
  • One participant declines to provide advice on which courses to drop, citing a lack of knowledge about the original poster's background and future academic goals.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the best course of action regarding the original poster's academic decisions. There are differing views on the necessity of consulting an academic advisor and the implications of course selection.

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Limitations include the original poster's lack of information about their academic standing and the competitiveness of their peers, as well as the uncertainty regarding the relevance of the courses in question to their future studies.

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I am an undergraduate with 3 more semesters left and with the majority of my physics core complete, except for quantum theory. I'd like to give my best effort to entering a top graduate school, but I got B marks in E&M I and Classical Mechanics. This semester was a turnaround, with straight A's, including E&M II (which I loved.)

I think that getting an A in grad-level E&M could demonstrate that I know physics core well before entering a PhD program. Question is, how much would I risk getting a grade below an A with a good prof?

And if I do switch into the grad-level course, could you please suggest which of these 400 level courses I can drop as the most "useless" for a serious physics student?

- Theoretical Astrophysics II in the Astro department
- Ordinary Differential Equations II with Stability Theory
- Applied Partial Differential Equations.
 
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yeshuamo said:
I am an undergraduate with 3 more semesters left and with the majority of my physics core complete, except for quantum theory. I'd like to give my best effort to entering a top graduate school, but I got B marks in E&M I and Classical Mechanics. This semester was a turnaround, with straight A's, including E&M II (which I loved.)

I think that getting an A in grad-level E&M could demonstrate that I know physics core well before entering a PhD program. Question is, how much would I risk getting a grade below an A with a good prof?

And if I do switch into the grad-level course, could you please suggest which of these 400 level courses I can drop as the most "useless" for a serious physics student?

- Theoretical Astrophysics II in the Astro department
- Ordinary Differential Equations II with Stability Theory
- Applied Partial Differential Equations.

I will ask this same question as I've asked repeatedly to all the other posts of this type: Have you discussed this exact issue with your academic advisor?!

For some odd reason, members who post this type of question have often neglected to inform us if he/she (i) has talked to an academic advisor, (ii) if yes, what was the response, and (iii) if no, why not?

The reason for this is (i) we do not know how good of a student you are. We don't know if you are an "A"-averaged student, a "B"-averaged students, or if you are teetering on passing and failing. (ii) we don't know how strong of a competition or the caliber of the graduate students you will have in those graduate classes, and (iii) do you need to boost your GPA so that you can get into more competitive graduate schools?

These are the type of 2-way communications that you need to have with the person who will give you such advice that you are seeking.

Zz.
 
ZapperZ said:
I will ask this same question as I've asked repeatedly to all the other posts of this type: Have you discussed this exact issue with your academic advisor?!

For some odd reason, members who post this type of question have often neglected to inform us if he/she (i) has talked to an academic advisor, (ii) if yes, what was the response, and (iii) if no, why not?

The reason for this is (i) we do not know how good of a student you are. We don't know if you are an "A"-averaged student, a "B"-averaged students, or if you are teetering on passing and failing. (ii) we don't know how strong of a competition or the caliber of the graduate students you will have in those graduate classes, and (iii) do you need to boost your GPA so that you can get into more competitive graduate schools?

These are the type of 2-way communications that you need to have with the person who will give you such advice that you are seeking.

Zz.
Thanks, Zz. I got this idea after the end of the semester - so no, I have not discussed the question with my advisor.

If we rightfully set aside the question of my past and future GPA and aptitude, have you any input on the usefulness of the Astro and two math courses I listed above?
 
yeshuamo said:
Thanks, Zz. I got this idea after the end of the semester - so no, I have not discussed the question with my advisor.

If we rightfully set aside the question of my past and future GPA and aptitude, have you any input on the usefulness of the Astro and two math courses I listed above?

It will be irresponsible for me to offer such an advice, because (i) I don't know how strong your background is in taking those courses (ii) I don't know what you intend to do in graduate school (ii) I don't know how useful those courses are with what you are hoping to do.

Zz.
 

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