Is Grad-Level E&M a Risk for a Serious Physics Student?

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The discussion centers on an undergraduate student contemplating enrollment in a graduate-level Electromagnetism (E&M) course to enhance their academic profile for top graduate schools. The student has achieved straight A's in recent courses, including E&M II, but is concerned about the risk of receiving a lower grade in the more challenging graduate course. Additionally, they seek advice on which 400-level courses to drop, specifically Theoretical Astrophysics II, Ordinary Differential Equations II with Stability Theory, and Applied Partial Differential Equations, to make room for the graduate course. The importance of consulting an academic advisor before making such decisions is emphasized throughout the discussion.

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  • Understanding of undergraduate physics core concepts, particularly Electromagnetism.
  • Familiarity with graduate-level coursework expectations in physics.
  • Knowledge of GPA implications for graduate school applications.
  • Awareness of academic advising processes in higher education.
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  • Consult with an academic advisor regarding course selection and GPA strategies.
  • Research the curriculum and expectations of graduate-level Electromagnetism courses.
  • Evaluate the relevance of Theoretical Astrophysics II, Ordinary Differential Equations II, and Applied Partial Differential Equations to future academic goals.
  • Explore strategies for maintaining high academic performance in challenging courses.
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This discussion is beneficial for undergraduate physics students considering graduate school, particularly those evaluating the impact of course selection on their academic trajectory and GPA. It also serves academic advisors and educators guiding students through course planning and graduate school preparation.

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I am an undergraduate with 3 more semesters left and with the majority of my physics core complete, except for quantum theory. I'd like to give my best effort to entering a top graduate school, but I got B marks in E&M I and Classical Mechanics. This semester was a turnaround, with straight A's, including E&M II (which I loved.)

I think that getting an A in grad-level E&M could demonstrate that I know physics core well before entering a PhD program. Question is, how much would I risk getting a grade below an A with a good prof?

And if I do switch into the grad-level course, could you please suggest which of these 400 level courses I can drop as the most "useless" for a serious physics student?

- Theoretical Astrophysics II in the Astro department
- Ordinary Differential Equations II with Stability Theory
- Applied Partial Differential Equations.
 
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yeshuamo said:
I am an undergraduate with 3 more semesters left and with the majority of my physics core complete, except for quantum theory. I'd like to give my best effort to entering a top graduate school, but I got B marks in E&M I and Classical Mechanics. This semester was a turnaround, with straight A's, including E&M II (which I loved.)

I think that getting an A in grad-level E&M could demonstrate that I know physics core well before entering a PhD program. Question is, how much would I risk getting a grade below an A with a good prof?

And if I do switch into the grad-level course, could you please suggest which of these 400 level courses I can drop as the most "useless" for a serious physics student?

- Theoretical Astrophysics II in the Astro department
- Ordinary Differential Equations II with Stability Theory
- Applied Partial Differential Equations.

I will ask this same question as I've asked repeatedly to all the other posts of this type: Have you discussed this exact issue with your academic advisor?!

For some odd reason, members who post this type of question have often neglected to inform us if he/she (i) has talked to an academic advisor, (ii) if yes, what was the response, and (iii) if no, why not?

The reason for this is (i) we do not know how good of a student you are. We don't know if you are an "A"-averaged student, a "B"-averaged students, or if you are teetering on passing and failing. (ii) we don't know how strong of a competition or the caliber of the graduate students you will have in those graduate classes, and (iii) do you need to boost your GPA so that you can get into more competitive graduate schools?

These are the type of 2-way communications that you need to have with the person who will give you such advice that you are seeking.

Zz.
 
ZapperZ said:
I will ask this same question as I've asked repeatedly to all the other posts of this type: Have you discussed this exact issue with your academic advisor?!

For some odd reason, members who post this type of question have often neglected to inform us if he/she (i) has talked to an academic advisor, (ii) if yes, what was the response, and (iii) if no, why not?

The reason for this is (i) we do not know how good of a student you are. We don't know if you are an "A"-averaged student, a "B"-averaged students, or if you are teetering on passing and failing. (ii) we don't know how strong of a competition or the caliber of the graduate students you will have in those graduate classes, and (iii) do you need to boost your GPA so that you can get into more competitive graduate schools?

These are the type of 2-way communications that you need to have with the person who will give you such advice that you are seeking.

Zz.
Thanks, Zz. I got this idea after the end of the semester - so no, I have not discussed the question with my advisor.

If we rightfully set aside the question of my past and future GPA and aptitude, have you any input on the usefulness of the Astro and two math courses I listed above?
 
yeshuamo said:
Thanks, Zz. I got this idea after the end of the semester - so no, I have not discussed the question with my advisor.

If we rightfully set aside the question of my past and future GPA and aptitude, have you any input on the usefulness of the Astro and two math courses I listed above?

It will be irresponsible for me to offer such an advice, because (i) I don't know how strong your background is in taking those courses (ii) I don't know what you intend to do in graduate school (ii) I don't know how useful those courses are with what you are hoping to do.

Zz.
 

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