Is gravity both a force and not a force?

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The discussion centers on the dual nature of gravity, where it can be perceived both as a force and not as a force, depending on the context. Participants highlight that NASA employs Newtonian gravity for practical calculations, while general relativity (GR) is essential for understanding gravity in massive systems like galaxies. The conversation emphasizes that gravity is a distortion of spacetime in GR, making it more accurate for larger masses. Ultimately, the consensus is that gravity's classification depends on the model used, with Newtonian physics being simpler but limited compared to the complexities of general relativity.

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  • Understanding of Newtonian gravity and its equations
  • Familiarity with general relativity and spacetime curvature
  • Knowledge of the equivalence principle in physics
  • Basic grasp of gravitational time dilation and its implications
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  • Study the differences between Newtonian gravity and general relativity
  • Explore the implications of gravitational time dilation in various contexts
  • Investigate the equivalence principle and its role in modern physics
  • Read Isaac Asimov's essay "The Relativity of Wrong" for philosophical insights on scientific models
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This discussion is beneficial for physicists, students of physics, and anyone interested in the foundational concepts of gravity and its interpretations in both classical and modern physics.

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jbriggs444 said:
In science, if you can never detect it, you can safely ignore it and let Occam's razor cut it away.

I was trying to point out a conceptual inconsistency in Newtonian mechanics. Had Einstein ignored it, we would not have general relativity today.

Demystifier said:
Before dealing with gravity and general relativity, one should ask and answer an analogous question in Newtonian mechanics: Is inertial force a force or not a force? After answering that one, the gravity case is conceptually much easier.

Yes, that's what I meant with 'forces' causing 'relative acceleration'.
 

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