Is gravity repulsive at particle scales?

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The discussion centers around the concept of gravity potentially acting as a repulsive force at very small scales, particularly in the context of particle physics and quantum gravity. Participants explore whether there are any theories or hypotheses that support this idea, while acknowledging the incomplete state of quantum gravity.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Debate/contested, Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant recalls a notion that gravity may act as a repulsive force when particles are in very close proximity, seeking confirmation or sources related to this idea.
  • Another participant challenges this notion, referencing Leonard Susskind's concept of the infrared-ultraviolet connection, which suggests that probing shorter distance scales with high-energy particles can lead to black hole formation, complicating the understanding of gravity at those scales.
  • A third participant expresses uncertainty about the original claim, suggesting that the idea might be more theoretical rather than something that can be experimentally probed.
  • A fourth participant emphasizes the difficulty of addressing the topic without a specific reference and suggests that the initial claim may be a misremembering.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the original claim regarding gravity acting as a repulsive force at small scales. There are competing views and uncertainties expressed about the validity of the idea and its theoretical underpinnings.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the limitations in understanding quantum gravity and the challenges in referencing specific theories or hypotheses related to the claim of repulsive gravity at particle scales.

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A while back (several years ago), I recall reading that when two particles are placed in very close proximity to each other, gravity begins to act as a repulsive force. I began looking for that source recently, but can find no reference to it (except one source of dubious credulity). Could someone inform me whether I am recalling correctly? Or perhaps incorrectly, as I suspect?
As a side note, I do know that the state of quantum gravity is still incomplete/unknown, so any pointers to hypotheses/theories (defunct or still in debate) where what I recall is actually correct would be great.
 
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This doesn't sound right to me. The closest I can come is what Leonard Susskind calls the infrared-ultraviolet connection. This is the idea that you can probe shorter and shorter distance scales by using particles of higher energy and shorter wavelength, but at some point the high-energy projectile hits the target you're imaging so hard that it forms a black hole. Once you start forming black holes, the radius of the black hole actually *increases* with energy, so you aren't probing shorter distance scales anymore.
 
Cool. But I'm pretty sure that what I was reading about wasn't about things that could really be probed with light. Perhaps more theoretical?
 
I think it will be very hard to address the details without a reference. It certainly sounds like you are misremembering.
 

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