Is Int(A) + ext(A) dense in some cases?

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The discussion revolves around the conditions under which the union of the interior of a set A (int(A)) and the exterior of A (ext(A)) may not be dense in a given space X. Participants explore definitions, examples, and theoretical implications related to this concept.

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  • One participant seeks an example where the union of int(A) and ext(A) is not dense in space X.
  • Another participant requests clarification on the definitions of int(A) and ext(A), suggesting that ext(A) might be the interior of the complement of A.
  • A participant defines int(A) as the interior of A and ext(A) as the exterior of A, proposing that their union is an open set and discussing conditions under which the closure of this union might not equal the entire space.
  • Concerns are raised about the terminology used, particularly the phrase "open points," which is clarified as referring to "interior points."
  • A participant acknowledges a misunderstanding regarding the possibility of both int(A) and ext(A) being empty, which would lead to their closure also being empty.

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The discussion contains multiple viewpoints and remains unresolved regarding the specific conditions under which the union of int(A) and ext(A) may not be dense. Participants express differing understandings of terminology and theoretical implications.

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Participants have not reached a consensus on the definitions and implications of int(A) and ext(A), and there are unresolved questions about constructing spaces where these sets exhibit particular properties.

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Can someone help me find an example of how the union of int(A) and ext(A) doesn't have to be dense in some space X? Thanks.
 
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Define your terms. What are int(A) and ext(A)? The former I'm assuming is the interior of A, and the latter is ... the interior of the complement of A (= the complement of the closure of A)? And post your thoughts on the matter.
 
int(A) = interior of A
ext(A) = exterior of A, or the interior of the complement of A

My thoughts are thus: int(A) and ext(A) are both open sets, so their union is an open set, and if we let B = union of int(A) and ext(A) then B = int(B). So the only way the closer is not equal to the entire space (making it dense) would be if the complement of B had some open points so that ext(B) was not empty.

However, since the complement of B is a subset of the complement of A, and ext(A) is all the open points of of the complement of A, the only way I can see that this would have a chance of being possible is if somehow you could construct a space where the int(A)=ext(A) for some set in that space (neither of which equaled the entire space). But I can't figure out how to construct a space where this is possible.

Those are my thoughts.
 
What in the world are "open points"? Do you mean "interior points" of a given set? In general topology, points do not have any properties- "points are points".
 
Sorry, bad phrasing. I figured it should have been obvious what I meant from context. I believe my book calls them "interior points", which are points that are contained in some open set that is completely contained in the set in question.
 
Nevermind, I got it. I forgot about the possibility that int(A) and ext(A) could both be the empty set, and thus the closure would also be the empty set (which I guess meets my criteria anyway of int(A) = ext(A)).
 

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