Is intelligence determined by popular vote?

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The discussion revolves around the concept of intelligence and whether it can be determined by popular vote. Participants explore the nature of intelligence, its relationship to personal adaptation, and the implications of voting on someone's perceived intelligence. The conversation includes elements of debate and conceptual clarification.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants argue that intelligence is not a matter of popular vote but rather an adaptation of the mind.
  • Others propose that voting on intelligence reduces complex arguments to simplistic judgments based on personal emotions.
  • There are claims that vague or unclear posts contribute to misunderstandings, leading to a breakdown in communication.
  • Some participants express that the act of voting itself does not substantiate claims of intelligence.
  • Several participants engage in a back-and-forth about the validity of their arguments and the nature of intelligence, with accusations of misunderstanding and trolling.
  • There are assertions that the discussion is being reduced to a single perspective, ignoring the complexity of the arguments presented.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the nature of intelligence or the validity of voting as a measure of it. Multiple competing views remain, with ongoing disagreements about the clarity of posts and the implications of voting.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express frustration over perceived vagueness in arguments, while others challenge the notion that intelligence can be quantified through votes. The discussion reflects a range of interpretations and assumptions about intelligence and communication.

s13ep
If people are who claim you're intelligent, then people need to be questioned (each and every one). They need to answer why you're intelligent, substantially.

Intelligence is not a vote, intelligence is an adaptation of the mind.

"What?" or a show of misconception is not substantial proof that one is intelligent or one has the intelligent view in a debate or discussion.
 
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s13ep said:
If people are who claim you're intelligent, then people need to be questioned (each and every one). They need to answer why you're intelligent, substantially.

Intelligence is not a vote, intelligence is an adaptation of the mind.

"What?" or a show of misconception is not substantial proof that one is intelligent or one has the intelligent view in a debate or discussion.
Your statements are a bit garbled. What is the point of your post? Do you have a question?
 
This is the general discussion board.

'Something' was posted.

You dismissed the whole of that 'something', and have produced an off-topic comment. It's your post that's garbled.
 
I vote that the OP is not intelligent.
 
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micromass said:
I vote that the OP is not intelligent.
Why is that?

My mind has adapted to the world; I, personally, live quite fortunately.
 
s13ep said:
Why is that?

Because I voted so. You want to characterize intelligence by votes, so the very action of my vote means you're not intelligent. If you want a reason, then you admit it's not the vote that makes somebody intelligent.

I, personally, live quite fortunately.

Cool. I'm happy for you.
 
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micromass said:
Because I voted so. You want to characterize intelligence by votes, so the very action of my vote means you're not intelligent. If you want a reason, then you admit it's not the vote that makes somebody intelligent.
Cool. I'm happy for you.
You misunderstood or didn't read the original post, or you're trolling me with a pseudo-sense of a greater intelligence.
 
s13ep said:
You misunderstood or didn't read the original post, or you're trolling me with a pseudo-sense of a greater intelligence.

If your original post is so incredibly vague, then it's not our fault for not understanding you! It's yours. My vote stands.
 
micromass said:
If your original post is so incredibly vague, then it's not our fault for not understanding you! It's yours. My vote stands.
Nope, just your understanding of it.

Soon you will form a group of people who misunderstand and attempt to destroy the thread.
 
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s13ep said:
Nope, just your understanding of it.

Soon you will form a group of people who misunderstand and attempt to destroy the thread.

Trust me, destroying this thread would be the merciful thing to do!
 
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micromass said:
Trust me, destroying this thread would be the merciful thing to do!
Because?

Because you've provided a non-argument, non-discussion and are reducing it all to your primitive self, your wants and emotions.
 
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s13ep said:
Because?

Because you've provided a non-argument, non-discussion and are reducing it all to your primitive self, your wants and emotions.

That's the entire point isn't it? You want intelligence to be voted on. But the people who vote will be lesser minds such as me. Isn't that a problem?
 
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s13ep said:
If people are who claim you're intelligent, then people need to be questioned (each and every one). They need to answer why you're intelligent, substantially.

Intelligence is not a vote, intelligence is an adaptation of the mind.

"What?" or a show of misconception is not substantial proof that one is intelligent or one has the intelligent view in a debate or discussion.
My mind has adapted to thinking your posts make no sense.
 
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Cruz Martinez said:
My mind has adapted to thinking your posts make no sense.
No, your mind has not adapted.
 
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s13ep said:
No, your mind has not adapted.

His mind can't adapt?
 
  • #16
s13ep said:
No, your mind has not adapted.

Is being omniscient a part of having an adapted mind?
 
  • #17
micromass said:
His mind can't adapt?
No, it didn't adapt, he was just joking.

Is being omniscient a part of having an adapted mind?
No.
 
  • #18
s13ep said:
No, It didn't adapt, he was just joking.

He's joking when he said you made no sense, because I hardly think it was a joke... So how come he thinks it makes no sense?
 
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s13ep said:
No.

So you admit you're not omniscient?
 
  • #20
You guys make no sense.

The intelligent thing to do is leave you alone and fix your mistakes from the outside.

An old quote from me: "This wisdom will echo throughout the world, and the only force to stop it is your own."

You are not wise, unfortunately.
 
  • #21
s13ep said:
No, it didn't adapt, he was just joking.No.
Why do you think I was joking?
 
  • #22
Cruz Martinez said:
Why do you think I was joking?

Because he's omniscient!
 
  • #23
Cruz Martinez said:
Why do you think I was joking?
I'm smart like that.

Same reason as you think I'm unintelligent.
 
  • #24
s13ep said:
You guys make no sense.

You're reducing our carefully crafted arguments to your primitive self, your wants and emotions.
 
  • #25
s13ep said:
I'm smart like that.

How can you tell you're smart when we just voted you to be not intelligent!
 
  • #26
micromass said:
You're reducing our carefully crafted arguments to your primitive self, your wants and emotions.
This is the epitome of your intelligence, seriously.

Next you cry at moderation to abuse their power in your favour, which they will do happily, probably with some wit involved.
 
  • #27
micromass said:
How can you tell you're smart when we just voted you to be not intelligent!
You are the one who is dependent on the vote for your feeling of intelligence, not me.
 
  • #28
s13ep said:
This is the epitome of your intelligence, seriously.

Next you cry at moderation to abuse their power in your favour, which they will do happily, probably with some wit involved.

I'm sorry, I don't understand the word epitome.
 
  • #29
s13ep said:
I'm smart like that.

Same reason as you think I'm unintelligent.
Oh yes, you most definitely are as smart as something.
 
  • #30
s13ep said:
You are the one who is dependent on the vote for your intelligence, not me.

How do you vote on my intelligence?
 

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