Is is possible to do graduate-level research without getting an adviser?

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The discussion revolves around the feasibility of conducting graduate-level research without an adviser, particularly in the context of challenges faced by students in developing countries. Participants explore the implications of lacking research experience and the potential for seeking external guidance.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses frustration over the lack of available advisers for theoretical physics topics at their university, questioning the possibility of conducting research independently.
  • Another participant challenges the notion that research experience is a strict requirement for graduate school admissions, suggesting that while it is recommended, it is not mandatory.
  • Some participants argue that applying to top graduate programs without research experience may not be advisable, while others suggest that applicants should clarify their circumstances in their personal statements.
  • There are claims that research opportunities exist even in developing countries, and some participants suggest that the original poster may not be pursuing available options.
  • A later reply emphasizes that demonstrating interest and skills can be more important than having formal research experience, particularly in the UK context.
  • Participants discuss the importance of building skills and knowledge in relevant areas, even if the research conducted is not directly aligned with the poster's interests.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the necessity of having an adviser for conducting graduate-level research. There are competing views on the importance of research experience for graduate school admissions and the availability of research opportunities in developing countries.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight limitations related to the availability of research opportunities and the varying expectations of graduate programs in different countries. The discussion reflects differing perspectives on what constitutes valuable experience and how to navigate the challenges of pursuing research in less resourced environments.

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The sad reality in my university is that there is no one who can advise me regarding the topics that I'm interested in, usually about theoretical physics. I live in a 3rd world country and the state of scientific research here is frustrating. Don't get me wrong, my professors are doing well with their own respective fields. But the quality of their research is not like those I would find when reading international publications.

Another extension of my question would be: It is possible to ask someone from outside the country to advise me? This is given that I have almost zero preparation outside textbook problems and a bit of journal readings. I'm not the best student around, and I am admittedly challenged, but I believe it's not due to my lack of comprehension but because of the lack of support and community here.

I'm very much planning to do PhD abroad. But it seems like you need research experience prior to being accepted. So I'm out here hoping to get research experience being a master's degree student. The problem is, I'm here in this 3rd world dilemma.

To prevent from straying too far, here's my question once again: Is is possible to do graduate-level research without getting an adviser? If not, how can I do with the case above? Thank you!
 
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quantumkiko said:
I'm very much planning to do PhD abroad. But it seems like you need research experience prior to being accepted.

Where did you get this faulty idea?

Zz.
 
Research experience is not a requirement for grad school. It's highly recommended, and many top grad programs will expect it, but you can get into grad school without it. Just don't bother applying to the very top programs.

As for doing research on your own, sure, it's possible, but it's unlikely you'll make much, if any, progress. You really do need someone to guide you through this. Maybe you can get a bit of experience with whatever research your professor can offer while you apply to graduate programs (since many application due dates for this year have already passed). Even if it's not exactly what you want to do, any research experience is valuable.
 
eri said:
Just don't bother applying to the very top programs.
Or apply and make it very clear in your personal statement that the reason you don't have research experience is 'cause you're in a third world country. And have stellar grades and GRE scores.
 
I have friends from third world countries (mostly in South America) who still managed to get research experience - it sounds like the poster doesn't have research experience because he doesn't want to do what's available, not because nothing is available.
 
eri said:
I have friends from third world countries (mostly in South America) who still managed to get research experience - it sounds like the poster doesn't have research experience because he doesn't want to do what's available, not because nothing is available.

I agree, even in "third world countries" now known as developing nations, there is always some R&D. This research is usually on topics you might not be interested in. However, you got to play the cards you were given.
 
eri said:
Research experience is not a requirement for grad school. It's highly recommended, and many top grad programs will expect it, but you can get into grad school without it. Just don't bother applying to the very top programs.

Well, I wouldn't give the OP the false impression that graduate level research is necessarily 'highly recommended', at least in the fashion that he seems to interpret it.

In the UK at least, entry into graduate programmes is based on a demonstration of your interest: and having performed 'research' as an undergraduate isn't about publishing a paper or producing something meaningful - it's about developing your skills. Being able to say, for instance, that you've spent X hours working on Y problem using Z programming language.

Having something to bring up in the interview as evidence that you know you're interested in the field is the main thing: applying to my graduate program i was able to point out that I've done 'research' projects with doctors in my university in things like image processing - albeit in a completely different context to that which I'm pursuing just now; but that isn't the point.

I would say that even if your professors are not able to cater to your preferred subject area, try and find something that will have an applicable skill. Depending on what you're interested in, computation or laboratory time will be invaluable: try to match it up. And by all means, read papers on the subject you want to apply to - ask people on this forum for guidelines on where to start to introduce yourself into research in the field.

I wouldn't worry too much about completing relevant research before you graduate. Focus on building your skills base and develop some introductary knowledge such that you'll be able to demonstrate that you care about the subject.
 

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