Is it certain that CMBR originates from the 5% of ordinary matter?

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The discussion centers around the origins of the Cosmic Microwave Background Radiation (CMBR) and its relationship to ordinary matter in the universe. Participants explore whether it is certain that CMBR originates solely from the 5% of ordinary matter, given that 95% of the universe's mass-energy content is attributed to dark matter and dark energy, which have uncertain properties. The conversation touches on implications for cosmological theories and the understanding of the universe's composition.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question the certainty that CMBR originates from ordinary matter, suggesting the possibility of other sources within the unknown 95% of the universe.
  • Others clarify that dark matter does not emit or absorb radiation, and thus cannot contribute to the CMB, while dark energy is described as a property of space with no interaction with photons.
  • A participant asserts that CMBR is a remnant of the Big Bang, produced when the universe became transparent after recombination, which occurred when neutral hydrogen formed.
  • There is a discussion about the time scale of recombination, with one participant noting that it took approximately 30,000 years, while another humorously acknowledges the use of "fast" in the original context.
  • Concerns are raised about the confidence in current cosmological models given the limited understanding of dark matter and dark energy, with one participant emphasizing the need for caution in claiming certainty.
  • Some argue that the laws of physics are consistent over time, suggesting that the absence of unaccounted photon sources today implies a similar situation in the past.
  • One participant reflects on the historical context of dark matter and dark energy discoveries, noting that while they were surprising, they were not entirely unexpected by some in the field.
  • There is speculation about potential future implications of understanding dark matter and dark energy, including the possibility of insights into vacuum energy.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the certainty of CMBR's origins and the implications of the unknown aspects of the universe. No consensus is reached regarding the extent of knowledge about dark matter and dark energy or their contributions to CMBR.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the limitations in current understanding of dark matter and dark energy, as well as the historical development of these concepts in cosmology. There are unresolved questions regarding the properties and interactions of these components of the universe.

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Is this cold spot any cause for concern for the standard model?
It does seem to suggest at least that the Universe is not quite as isotropic and homogeneous as first thought. Do CMBR hot spots and cold spots correlate at all with galaxy super clusters and super voids and if so what is the cause of the correlation?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CMB_cold_spot

http://news.yahoo.com/scientists-discuss-universes-strange-dense-spot-wednesday-watch-151311146.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Large-scale_structure_of_the_universe#Large-scale_structure

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huge-LQG
 
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The probability of finding a deviation at least as high in Gaussian simulations was found to be 1.85%.
Interesting, but not a serious issue if that number does not change.

Do CMBR hot spots and cold spots correlate at all with galaxy super clusters and super voids and if so what is the cause of the correlation?
Integrated Sachs-Wolfe effect, as mentioned in the article. The original hot/cold regions come from matter so far away that we don't see the galaxies that formed out of this - their light did not reach us yet, and probably won't if the expansion of the universe keeps accelerating.
 

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