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The discussion revolves around the simplification of expressions of the form a^x - b^x, specifically examples like 60^x - 36^x and 30^x - 25^x. Participants explore various approaches to simplifying these expressions, considering both algebraic manipulation and potential mathematical techniques.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants clarify that the expressions should be treated as expressions rather than equations, as they lack an "=" sign.
  • One participant suggests that for x > 0, the expression can be factored using properties of square roots, although this approach may not lead to further simplification.
  • Another participant states that the expressions a^x - b^x are generally in their simplest form and cannot be simplified further.
  • One participant proposes a factoring method, indicating that the first expression can be factored as 6^x(10^x - 6^x) and the second as 5^x(6^x - 5^x), but notes that the resulting expressions cannot be simplified further.
  • A later reply mentions the possibility of using the Lambert W function if the expressions were set equal to a constant, suggesting a different approach to handling these forms.
  • Another participant challenges the claim that certain expressions cannot be simplified, pointing out that the greatest common divisor can be utilized in simplification.
  • One participant provides a detailed breakdown of the simplification process, showing how to factor out common terms from the expressions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the simplifiability of the expressions, with some asserting that they cannot be simplified further while others provide methods for factoring and suggest potential simplifications. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the extent to which these expressions can be simplified.

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Some participants rely on specific assumptions about the values of x and the nature of the expressions, which may limit the applicability of their claims. The discussion also reflects varying interpretations of what constitutes simplification.

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These are just some example equations:

60^x-36^x
or
30^x-25^x

where the x is raised to the power. How can (if possible) I simplify these equations?
 
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gokuls said:
These are just some example equations:

60^x-36^x
or
30^x-25^x

where the x is raised to the power. How can (if possible) I simplify these equations?

I don't see any equations. An equation should have an "=" sign somewhere.
 
If you treat it as an expression (and not an equation like micromass pointed out), you might want to consider that for x > 0, y > 0,

(SQRT(x))^(2a) - (SQRT(y))^(2b)

= (SQRT(x)^a + SQRT(y)^b)*(SQRT(x)^a - SQRT(y)^b)
 
gokuls said:
These are just some example equations:

60^x-36^x
or
30^x-25^x

where the x is raised to the power. How can (if possible) I simplify these equations?

So generally, you're looking at expressions of the form a^x-b^x for positive a and b.
Sadly, no. That is the simplest form you can have it in.
 
You can factorise them, using the ordinary rules of numbers raised to powers, e.g. the first would be
12x(5x - 3x) . Whether you call that a simplification and whether and when it is of any usefulness are other questions, but it shouldn't be a difficulty to see.
 
Merci beaucoup à tout! I suspected that it wouldn't be able to reducible, but I just wanted to make sure.
 
gokuls said:
These are just some example equations:

60^x-36^x
(6(10))^x- (6(6))^x= 6^x10^x- 6^x6^x= 6^x(10^x- 6^x)

or
30^x-25^x
(6(5))^x- (5(5))^x= 5^x6^x- 5^x5^x= 5^x(6^x- 5^x)

However, neither 10^x- 6^x nor 6^x- 5^x can be further simplified.

where the x is raised to the power.
You mean "where the x is the power."

How can (if possible) I simplify these equations?
 
gokuls said:
These are just some example equations:

60^x-36^x
or
30^x-25^x

where the x is raised to the power. How can (if possible) I simplify these equations?

If you wanted to solve an equation in this form (e.g. set it equal to something like a constant) you could solve it with the Lambert W function.
 
HallsofIvy said:
However, neither 10^x- 6^x nor 6^x- 5^x can be further simplified.
The first one can. The gcd of 10 and 6 is 2.
 
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gokuls said:
These are just some example equations:

60^x-36^x
or
30^x-25^x

where the x is raised to the power. How can (if possible) I simplify these [strike]equations[/strike] expressions?

Previous posts have simplified these by factoring out the greatest common denominators of 60, 36 and of 30, 25.

Another way is to take advantage of the fact that 1x=1:

<br /> \begin{aligned}<br /> 60^x-36^x<br /> =&amp; 36^x \left( (60/36)^x - (36/36)^x \right)<br /> = 36^x \left( (5/3)^x - 1\right) \\<br /> 30^x-25^x<br /> =&amp; 25^x \left( (30/25)^x - (25/25)^x \right)<br /> = 25^x \left( (6/5)^x - 1\right)<br /> \end{aligned}<br />
 

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