Is it possible to specify a 3d surface in 4d space with just one vector?

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In 4D space, a 3D hyperplane cannot be specified by a single vector alone; it requires both a normal vector and a point within the hyperplane. This is analogous to 3D space, where a 2D plane is defined by its normal vector and a point on the plane. Without the point, one can only describe a family of parallel hyperplanes. The mathematical representation involves vectors in the form of a four-dimensional vector and the dot product equation to define the hyperplane.

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In 3d space, a 2d plane can be specified by it's normal vector. In 4d space, is there a 3d plane, and will these planes be specifiable by a single vector?
 
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dEdt said:
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In 3d space, a 2d plane can be specified by it's normal vector.
No, that's not enough information. You can specify a plane in R3 by its normal vector and a point on the plane. Without that point what you get is a family of parallel planes.
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In 4d space, is there a 3d plane, and will these planes be specifiable by a single vector?
In higher dimensions, including R4, we call them hyperplanes. And again, a single vector isn't enough.
 
In general, we can specify a n-1 dimensional hyperplane in a space of n dimensions with a "normal vector" and a point in the hyperplane.

In four dimensions, every point can be written as (x_1, x_2, x_3, x_4) and a four dimensional vector of the form a\vec{ix}+ b\vec{j}+ c\vec{k}+ d\vec{l}. If the origin, (0, 0, 0, 0) is in the hyperplane, then we can write x_1\vec{ix}+ x_2\vec{j}+ x_3\vec{k}+ x_4\vec{l} and so the dot product is ax_1+ bx_2+ cx_3+ dx_4= 0 giving an equation for that hyper plane. But, again, that assumes the hyperplane contains the point (0, 0, 0). Another plane, perpendicular to the same vector, but not containing (0, 0, 0), cannot be written that way.
 

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