Is it safe to unplug electronics before turning them off?

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The discussion revolves around the safety and potential consequences of unplugging electronics from a power strip before turning them off individually. Participants explore various types of devices, including computers and household appliances, and the implications of improper shutdowns.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that unplugging devices before turning them off is generally safe, as devices are designed to handle power interruptions.
  • Concerns are raised about potential data loss when unplugging computers without shutting them down properly.
  • Participants note that certain appliances, like irons, may pose risks if unplugged while turned on, potentially leading to unexpected behavior when plugged back in.
  • There is mention of other devices that could have similar issues, such as hot plates, which may also have safety concerns when unplugged without being turned off first.
  • Some participants share personal anecdotes about experiences with unplugging devices and the implications of doing so.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a mix of agreement and disagreement regarding the safety of unplugging devices. While some feel it is generally acceptable, others highlight specific risks associated with certain appliances and devices, indicating that the discussion remains unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the lack of consensus on which specific devices are safe to unplug without prior shutdown and the potential for unexpected behavior in various appliances.

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There are 4 or 5 items plugged into the power strip, and it would be more convenient for the people I live with to simply unplug the power strip rather than turn off each electronic item one at a time.

So, my question is, will I damage my electronic equipment (including an lcd monitor) if I were to disconnect the power strip from the wall outlet BEFORE pressing the off switch on the said electronic items?
 
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I can't say for sure about all types of devices, but I do it frequently. The designs must take that possibility into account, since they have to survive mains failures. The only bad thing that I can think of would be some data loss if you improperly shut down a computer.
 
Danger said:
I can't say for sure about all types of devices, but I do it frequently. The designs must take that possibility into account, since they have to survive mains failures. The only bad thing that I can think of would be some data loss if you improperly shut down a computer.

Thanks Danger. This will make my life so much easier now :)
 
I agree with Danger, it's fine as long as there are no data integrity issues with computer-based devices that are plugged in. Since you mention an LCD monitor, that usually accompanies a computer, no? Are you shutting that computer down from the keyboard first?
 
Tell my wife that.

She gets mad when I unplug the iron without turning it off first.
 
berkeman said:
I agree with Danger, it's fine as long as there are no data integrity issues with computer-based devices that are plugged in. Since you mention an LCD monitor, that usually accompanies a computer, no? Are you shutting that computer down from the keyboard first?

Yes, the LCD does indeed plug into a computer, but it isn't plugged into the same power strip that I wish to unplug, so I'm not worried about any type of data loss.
 
DaveC426913 said:
Tell my wife that.

She gets mad when I unplug the iron without turning it off first.

Ahah! Good point. That's something that we overlooked in saying it's okay to unplug stuff without turning them off first. Quiz question -- Why is Dave's wife actually right in this case?! :blushing:
 
berkeman said:
Ahah! Good point. That's something that we overlooked in saying it's okay to unplug stuff without turning them off first. Quiz question -- Why is Dave's wife actually right in this case?! :blushing:

You could get a nasty surprise when you plug it in again, if you didn't realize it was going to get hot BEFORE you switched it on.

A clever design would have a latching switch that unlatched itself when the power was lost - but I doubt most irons are that sophisticated.
 
AlephZero said:
You could get a nasty surprise when you plug it in again, if you didn't realize it was going to get hot BEFORE you switched it on.
I doubt a lot of people plug in their iron and then wait five minutes before turning it on...


But I suppose you could get a shock when either plugging it in or unplugging it. (Though countless is the number of appliances I have where the plug is the only on/off switch).
 
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AlephZero's answer was what I thought of. There is a class of devices that you might unplug when they are turned on, but that have an unexpected behavior when you plug them in and their on/off switch had been left on. The iron is one of them, but there are probably others, like a hot plate maybe.
 
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I have seen a computer been unpluged and the operating system failure when you try to turn it back on. I think it may have been when he was having errors or something.
 
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berkeman said:
Why is Dave's wife actually right in this case?!

Because she's his wife. I managed to remain single for 49 years, and for the last 2 years I've been wrong on topics that W doesn't even know exist.

bassplayer142 said:
I have seen a computer been unpluged and the operating system failure when you try to turn it back on. I think it may have been when he was having errors or something.

Must have been a Windows-burner. Real computers don't have that problem.

Call me old-fashioned, but any iron that I've ever had didn't have an 'on/off' switch. I plugged it into turn it on, and unplugged it to turn it off.

This is not for a second to indicate that I've ever used an iron. I just happen to own a couple.
 
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berkeman said:
There is a class of devices that you might unplug when they are turned on, but that have an unexpected behavior when you plug them in and their on/off switch had been left on. The iron is one of them, but there are probably others, like a hot plate maybe.
Heart-lung machine.
Flying aircraft.
 
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DaveC426913 said:
Heart-lung machine.
Flying aircraft.

LOL. Did you ever see that classic cartoon of a scientist who is about to plug in the power cord to this big, mean, angry looking robot? I don't remember if it was a Far Side cartoon, or just a generic one, but it was posted up on the wall in the Hardware Lab for the longest time. The caption was something like, "Some people just don't think ahead...".
 
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DaveC426913 said:
Flying aircraft.

Just how long an extension cord are we talking about here?
 
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Danger said:
Just how long an extension cord are we talking about here?

See the recent Trent Jet Engine thread about "more electric engines". Shucks. I KNEW there must be something we forgot about with that idea...
 
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Danger said:
Just how long an extension cord are we talking about here?
Hey, if they can have wire-guided missiles...
 

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