Is it theoretically possible to find g(x) from this equation?

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The discussion revolves around the theoretical possibility of deriving the function g(x) from a given equation involving multiple variables. Participants explore the implications of the notation used and the relationships between the functions g(x) and g(y,z), questioning whether a function of three variables combined with a function of one variable can yield a function of two variables.

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  • One participant questions whether a function of (x,y,z) combined with a function of (x) can yield a function of (y,z), expressing doubt about the feasibility of deriving g(x).
  • Another participant critiques the notation, arguing that g(x) and g(y,z) should be interpreted as different functions due to their differing variable dependencies.
  • Some participants assert that the equation implies g(x) cannot exist in the specific case presented, providing examples that lead to contradictory forms of g(x).
  • There is a suggestion that if g(x) and g(y,z) are indeed different functions, the equation could be reformulated, leading to a partial derivative that indicates no suitable g'(x) exists that depends solely on x.
  • A later reply emphasizes the need for clarity regarding the intended meaning of g(x) and g(y,z), suggesting that the problem lacks a sensible solution as stated.

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Participants express disagreement regarding the interpretation of the functions g(x) and g(y,z), with no consensus on whether a solution exists or what the correct formulation should be. The discussion remains unresolved.

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Limitations include potential misunderstandings of notation and variable dependencies, as well as unresolved implications of the mathematical relationships presented.

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Is it theoretically possible to find "g(x)" from this equation?

So through my workings on this question I came up with this equation:

(x^2)yz - (y^2)(x^2) - x + g(x) = g(y,z)

* where g(x) is some function of x and g(y,z) is some function of y and z

I'd like to derive g(x) from this although I get the feeling that it simply can't be done. Can say a function of (x,y,z) + a function of (x) ever give you a function of (y,z)? Why can't you do this?
 
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Your notation is bad. When you write g(x), it implies that is a function in one variable. But g(y,z) is a function of two variables. This is impossible.
 


Are you saying the g(x) and g(y,z) are different functions (in which case, you shouldn't use the same letter!) or that g(y,z) is "the same function as g(x) except using two variables" (which is meaningless).
 


Furthermore, (x^2)yz - (y^2)(x^2) - x is a function of three variables, x, y, and z.
 


Notation is bad, but we should be able to interpret g(x) and g(y,z) as two different functions, the point being that the first depends only on x, while the latter depends on y and z.

Such a g(x) does btw not exist in your particular case. For example, y=z=0 gives g(x)=x+C, and y=1,z=0, gives g(x)=x2+x+D, where C and D are some constants.
Can say a function of (x,y,z) + a function of (x) ever give you a function of (y,z)?
Yes, trivially, for example (x+y+z) + (-x) = (y+z).
 


Well, if you meant that g(x) and g(y,z) are different functions, then you would get:
(x^2)yz - (y^2)(x^2) - x + g(x) = h(y,z)
Its partial derivative with respect to x is:
2xyz-2xy^2-1+g'(x)=0

Since this is an expression with y and z in it, this means that there is no such g'(x) that depends only on x.

So we have to assume that you actually meant g(x,y,z) with depends on all of them.
In that case, you get:
$$2xyz-2xy^2-1+{\partial g \over \partial x}(x,y,z)={\partial g \over \partial x}(x,y,z)$$

But then, this would only be true if ##2xyz-2xy^2-1=0##.

So the question becomes: what did you actually mean?
The problem that you state has no sensible solution however it was meant.
 

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