Is Multiverse the ultimate sci-fi?

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The discussion revolves around the concept of the multiverse in science fiction, exploring its implications, representations in media, and its philosophical and narrative significance. Participants examine how the multiverse allows for a wide range of scenarios and ideas, questioning its status as the "ultimate" sci-fi concept.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that the multiverse encompasses all possible laws of nature, allowing any science fiction scenario to exist, including fantastical elements like those in Harry Potter.
  • Another participant claims that Heinlein's 'Number of the Beast' surpasses other multiverse representations.
  • A participant expresses disdain for the cliché of alternate universes where historical events differ slightly, indicating a preference for more original concepts.
  • One contributor questions the meaning of 'Ultimate Sci-Fi,' proposing that the multiverse could either be a continuation of a single universe or consist of universes with randomly generated physics, highlighting the subjective nature of what is considered real versus fantasy.
  • Another participant critiques the idea of the multiverse as a 'God Mode' in storytelling, arguing that it can lead to a lack of creativity and depth in sci-fi narratives.
  • A participant mentions the upcoming 'Spider-Man: No Way Home' movie, speculating that it will involve multiverse themes and different timelines.
  • One participant asserts that the multiverse lacks a mathematical theory, suggesting a gap in its scientific foundation.
  • Another expresses a negative view of multiverses in popular media, specifically criticizing the complexity of the Marvel multiverse and hoping that a Star Wars multiverse will not be created.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of opinions on the multiverse, with no clear consensus on its value or implications in science fiction. Some appreciate its potential for creativity, while others criticize its overuse and lack of depth.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight various assumptions about the nature of the multiverse, including its relationship to reality and fantasy, as well as its representation in media. The discussion reflects differing perspectives on the narrative utility and philosophical implications of the multiverse concept.

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Multiverse is about other universes with all kinds of laws of nature. This means all science fiction ideas or scenerios can play out or exist to some extent, like Harry Potter. Hence anything fantasy or science fiction you can think of is overtaken by this Multiverse concept believed by physicists.

What else can beat it?

What movies has concepts about Multiverse (besides the One, and Sliders)?
 
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Heinlein's 'Number of the Beast' beat them all.
 
hate the cliche of the alternate universe where everything is exactly the same except the Roman Empire never fell or the South won the Civil War or I had fish instead of chicken for dinner last night
 
Not sure what you mean by 'Ultimate Sci-Fi' but either the multiverse exists as having spawned from another and therefore is the same or they are all with different (randomly generated) physics. Take your pick if you are writing a piece of fiction. Real physicists resort to pushing the bounds of knowledge to try and see a way forward with theory (what other way is there!). We all have a different idea about the boundary between what could be real and pure fantasy.
 
jake jot said:
...anything fantasy or science fiction you can think of is overtaken by this Multiverse concept...
As I take it it's not anything 'ultimate' in a sense of 'anything good'. It's like God Mode in a game: you are free to do anything. While it sounds good for first, actually it means you are left hanging in a void, without any references. It's not freedom, but a kind of ultimate temptation of laziness... 😰

By my opinion if you can't cook up good technobabble to solve a problem in a sci-fi story then you should just quit, instead of bringing in such a 'god mode' as any 'multiverse'.
 
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Have anybody here seen spiderman no way home trailer. I thinks this movie have a multiverse and Doctor strange are also seen in trailer, this will definity be a diffirent timeline also . I eager waiting for the movie to be released.
 
Multiverse has no mathematical theory.
 
Multiverses are too messy. Marvel is just so convoluted I feel like how Rick Sanchez views the multiverse- indifferent. Hopefully they will never make a Star Wars multiverse.
 

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