Is New College of Florida good for physics?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on evaluating New College of Florida as a potential institution for pursuing a degree in physics, particularly in relation to theoretical astrophysics and cosmology. Participants explore the college's reputation for preparing students for graduate school and its physics department's performance compared to other institutions.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses interest in New College for its reported success in sending students to top graduate schools, seeking confirmation and insights on the physics department.
  • Another participant emphasizes the importance of understanding typical outcomes for graduates rather than relying solely on marketing claims, suggesting specific questions to ask the department about graduate school placements and research opportunities.
  • A third participant recommends checking external data sources for a broader perspective on undergraduate physics programs, indicating that trends over multiple years should be considered.
  • Further questions are raised regarding the percentage of students taking the Physics Graduate Record Examination (PGRE), publishing research, and the aspirations of physics majors at New College.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the quality of New College's physics program or its effectiveness as a feeder school for graduate programs. Multiple viewpoints and concerns about the reliability of available information are expressed.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the potential for outdated or misleading information regarding graduate placements and the need for prospective students to seek direct communication with the department for accurate insights.

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I'm wanted to go into theoretical astrophysics/cosmology in grad school, and I'm look for schools that will look very good to graduate admissions, and that will give me a great preparation. New College seems to have exceptional results in sending students to top grad schools according to their website, which says they're tied with Reed in 3rd place for feeder schools. Can anybody confirm this, or has an outlook on their physics department specifically? How do they compare to other physics feeder schools?
Also, I'm considering a post-bac job or research before grad school. How does the college do with placement in that arena?
Thanks!
 
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astroman707 said:
I'm wanted to go into theoretical astrophysics/cosmology in grad school, and I'm look for schools that will look very good to graduate admissions, and that will give me a great preparation. New College seems to have exceptional results in sending students to top grad schools according to their website, which says they're tied with Reed in 3rd place for feeder schools. Can anybody confirm this, or has an outlook on their physics department specifically? How do they compare to other physics feeder schools?
Also, I'm considering a post-bac job or research before grad school. How does the college do with placement in that arena?
Thanks!

It's hard to look under the hood and get the kind of reliable information you desire.

Lots of liberal arts schools have impressive lists of where their graduates have attended, but that information can be outdated or represent the rare graduate rather than the typical graduate. Here are the questions I try and get answers to before recommending a school for an undergrad in physics or astro:

1. What percentage of your department's majors take the PGRE, and what is the distribution of scores?
2. What percentage of your department's majors publish original research before graduation?
3. Of your graduates heading to grad school, what is the breakdown of attending top 10, top 50, top 100, and other grad schools?
4. What GPA does a graduate likely need from your school to likely be admitted to their desired tier of graduate school?
5. What percentage of your department's majors have research opportunities as freshmen? sophs? juniors? seniors?

Many physics departments market based on the best outcomes their students have experienced. The student making decisions on where to attend needs to understand more the typical outcomes and/or the percentage breakdowns of outcomes. Most departments are pretty successful keeping that information from being available via even advanced internet search techniques. Students usually need to find a reliable contact in the department and ask. Beware the sales pitch.

Did they really give you the information you asked for, or were they trying to maintain a positive vibe with different information, thus avoiding the question?
 
Dr. Courtney said:
1. What percentage of your department's majors take the PGRE, and what is the distribution of scores?
2. What percentage of your department's majors publish original research before graduation?
3. Of your graduates heading to grad school, what is the breakdown of attending top 10, top 50, top 100, and other grad schools?
4. What GPA does a graduate likely need from your school to likely be admitted to their desired tier of graduate school?
5. What percentage of your department's majors have research opportunities as freshmen? sophs? juniors? seniors?
6. What percentage of your department's majors aspire to go to your desired tier of graduate school?

(Not all physics majors aspire to get into MIT, Caltech, etc.)
 
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