The discussion revolves around the nature of order in the universe, questioning whether it is a fundamental aspect created at the universe's inception or if it arises from chaos in different regions. The conversation touches on concepts from physics, particularly Newton's laws, and explores the implications of these ideas on the understanding of order and disorder.
Participants do not reach a consensus, as there are competing views on the nature of order and disorder, and significant disagreement regarding the interpretation of Newton's laws. The discussion remains unresolved with ongoing contention about the foundational assumptions.
There are limitations in the discussion, including misunderstandings of Newton's laws and the speculative nature of the claims made. The conversation reflects a lack of clarity on the definitions and implications of order and disorder in the context of physics.
Nano-Passion said:"Newton's First Law states that an object will remain at rest or in uniform motion in a straight line unless acted upon by an external force."
Are we talking about the same Newton here?
vanadium 50 said:"Newton's third law states that the mutual forces of action and reaction between two bodies are equal, opposite and collinear."
are we talking about the same Newton here?
But has it always existed? Answer the question.Vanadium 50 said:It says nothing of the sort. Please learn what the physics actually says before speculating. Also, please reread the PF Rules on Overly Speculative Posts.