Is our consciousness an attribute of self?

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The discussion centers on the nature of consciousness, debating whether it is an attribute of self or a definition of being. Participants express that consciousness involves the ability to focus attention and is closely tied to the processes of feeling and experiencing. There is a significant divide between materialists, who believe consciousness arises from matter, and those who argue that matter emerges from consciousness. The complexities of consciousness remain largely unexplained by science, with many acknowledging that it is a profound mystery. Ultimately, the conversation highlights the subjective experience of consciousness while questioning its scientific definitions and origins.
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Originally posted by Canute
What?

A computer is created directly, and it is programmed to respond only to external data - it doesn't work unless someone is "using" it...that's the primary difference.

I give up. Are you so determined to avoid the facts that you can't even see the glaring fallacy in this paragraph?

I'm sorry. The paragraph may be disregarded; it was simply a reference to the fact that animal consciousness doesn't seem nearly so distant from a computer's processing as human consciousness does to a typical philosopher of the mind.
 
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Originally posted by Mentat
A computer is created directly, and it is programmed to respond only to external data - it doesn't work unless someone is "using" it...that's the primary difference.
Ok. It's only one of the differences, but it is an important one.

I'm sorry. The paragraph may be disregarded; it was simply a reference to the fact that animal consciousness doesn't seem nearly so distant from a computer's processing as human consciousness does to a typical philosopher of the mind. [/B]
I'm tempted to say that you shouldn't extrapolate from just your own case. :smile:
 
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