Is Prequantum Field Theory a Valuable Area of Research?

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The discussion centers on the value and implications of prequantum field theories, particularly in relation to their mathematical structures and potential applications in physics. Participants explore various theoretical aspects, including connections to gauge theories and complex analytic superspaces.

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  • Urs Schreiber introduces examples of prequantum field theories, specifically Wess-Zumino-Witten-type theories.
  • Some participants express interest in the implications of complex analytic superspaces and their gauge theoretic aspects.
  • There is a discussion about the higher tower of cocycles from semisimple Lie algebras leading to various dimensions of Chern-Simons theories, including connections to M-branes.
  • One participant questions the practical relevance of the theories discussed, suggesting that the language used is overly complex and disconnected from observable phenomena.
  • Another participant defends the mathematical approach, noting that while the details may be intricate, there are interesting insights to be gained.

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Participants express differing views on the value and clarity of prequantum field theories. While some find the mathematical depth intriguing, others criticize the complexity and perceived lack of connection to physical reality. No consensus is reached regarding the overall value of this area of research.

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Participants acknowledge the dense language and complexity of the theories discussed, which may limit accessibility and understanding for those outside the field of mathematical physics.

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Examples of Prequantum Field Theories IV: Wess-Zumino-Witten-type Theories

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"The bouquet which emanates form these..." should be FROM. Also various pieces of latex didn't compile.

Have you seen any other interesting bouquets? What would happen in the complex analytic world? I see there is some gauge theoretic interest in complex analytic superspaces, $$mathbb{C]^{p|q)$$, such as p. 12 of http://arxiv.org/abs/1507.03048.
 
David Corfield said:
"The bouquet which emanates form these..." should be FROM. Also various pieces of latex didn't compile

Thanks for catching this! All fixed now.

David Corfield said:
Have you seen any other interesting bouquets?

We had looked a bit into the higher tower of cocycles emanating from a semisimple Lie algebra, which in the first stage yields 3d-Chern-Simons theory on G-gauge fields, in the second stage yields 7d-Chern-Simons theory on String(G)-higher gauge fields, and then in the next stage yields an 11-dimensional CS theory that Hisham argues is related to the "M9-brane".

David Corfield said:
I see there is some gauge theoretic interest in complex analytic superspaces, such as p. 12 of http://arxiv.org/abs/1507.03048.

Yes, superstring perturbation theory in principle is all about complex analytic supergeometry, due to it being all about super Riemann surfaces.
 
what's the point of this mystical, arcane stuff? It seems like you've used extremely dense, convoluted language to construct a model that doesn't appear to describe nature.

I'm just a humble biologist here.
 
glaucousNoise said:
what's the point of this mystical, arcane stuff? It seems like you've used extremely dense, convoluted language to construct a model that doesn't appear to describe nature.

He is a mathematical physicist. Its the type of thing they do - eg delve deeply into the underlying mathematical structure of our theories.

My background is math, and the detail of what he writes is way beyond my present level. But you can still read it and glean bits and pieces here and there that are interesting.

Thanks
Bill
 

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