Is Private Security the Solution to Modern Piracy?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the role of private security in addressing modern piracy, particularly in the context of maritime shipping. Participants explore the implications of employing armed private guards versus relying on state navies for protection, touching on historical precedents and current practices.

Discussion Character

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express support for private security, citing successful thwarting of pirate attacks.
  • Others question the opposition to private guards, suggesting it may stem from a lack of personal experience with piracy.
  • Concerns are raised about the qualifications of private security personnel, with some arguing that many lack maritime experience.
  • There is a viewpoint that the responsibility for maritime security should remain with state navies, and privatizing this function could be regressive.
  • One participant, drawing from personal military experience, argues that the Navy's primary function is to protect shipping and that the current reliance on private security indicates a failure of naval responsibilities.
  • Historical context is provided, noting that navies have traditionally protected civilian shipping from piracy, and that privateers were used in the past when naval forces were insufficient.
  • Some participants express discomfort with the idea of employing various types of private security personnel, depending on their backgrounds and capabilities.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus; multiple competing views remain regarding the effectiveness and appropriateness of private security in combating piracy versus traditional naval protection.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight various assumptions about the capabilities and motivations of private security forces, as well as the historical context of naval protection against piracy. There are unresolved questions about the adequacy of current naval responses and the implications of privatizing maritime security.

drankin
Pirates tried to attack the ship again but were thwarted by armed private security. GOOD FOR THEM! Some seem to have a problem with it. Why??

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,575529,00.html"
 
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I have no clue why people would be against private guards. Perhaps its because the ships from their own country have not been attacked?
 
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"Shipping companies are still pretty much overwhelmingly opposed to the idea of armed guards," Middleton said. "Lots of private security companies employee people who don't have maritime experience." Also, there's the idea that it's the responsibility of states and navies to provide security. I would think it's a step backward if we start privatizing security of the shipping trade.
 
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I have no clue why people would be against private guards.

""Shipping companies are still pretty much overwhelmingly opposed to the idea of armed guards," Middleton said. "Lots of private security companies employee people who don't have maritime ""

Depends where the guards are from and who hired them:
ex-marines employed by Haliburton probably OK
ex-Congo mercenaries armed with AK-47s, ermm
ex-Serbian irregulars with rocket launchers, next to your Greek tanker - getting nervous
100 armed libyan/North korean/etc 'security avisors' on a boat docking in New York - worried yet
 
Also, there's the idea that it's the responsibility of states and navies to provide security. I would think it's a step backward if we start privatizing security of the shipping trade.
That's my take on the situation as well. Note, that's nothing against the crew or owners of the Alabama, but that's me as a former Navy sailor feeling disgusted by the prospect of the Navy not doing its primary function. Protecting shipping is the reason the Navy exists and right now, it isn't doing that. Whatever disease modern society has (probably simply a bad case of PC) that has softened it to the point of impotence, there is a reality here that won't go away by trying to treat it differently: *someone* has to shoot pirates and sink pirate ships. Since the Navy isn't doing it, private shipping companies are now doing it. In other words, by shirking their responsibility to be navies, the navies of the world are forcing private shipping companies to become navies.

Even the handful of times pirates have accidentally attacked Navy (not just US Navy - they seem to have a thing for the French), they've been warned off or arrested. That's just not the proper way to handle the situation.

See the currently active thread in the politics forum on the prospects of arresting Bin Laden for a similar complaint from me about using the Army as police instead of as an army.

[edit] The article says the Alabama is being "monitored" by a P-3 Orion. The Orion is capable of carrying torpedoes, long range air to surface missiles and short range Zuni rockets. I see a straightforward problem and several potential solutions...

And as a more complete solution, the coastline including the gulf of Aden runs about 1500 miles. You could cover the entire area with 3 patrol planes, requiring no more than an hour to intercept a ship under attack off Somalia.
 
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A vital (historical) function of the Navy and Marines was to protect civilian shipping from piracy ("...to the Shores of Tripoli..."). Armed ships of the Spanish, Portuguese, and English were also tasked with protecting their nation's shipping, especially since royalty was heavily involved in commerce.

During times of conflict, piracy often rears its head, often to take advantage of the lack of military coverage, and for personal gain. The English didn't have enough warships to harass American shipping, so they issued letters of marque to privateers, essentially creating a "legal" pirate navy.
 

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