Discussion Overview
The discussion revolves around the viability of the Clem Conical Pump Engine as a functional machine, with participants examining claims of self-sustaining operation and the concept of "over unity" in energy production. The scope includes theoretical considerations, practical applications, and critiques of the proposed designs.
Discussion Character
- Debate/contested
- Technical explanation
- Conceptual clarification
Main Points Raised
- Some participants reference plans for a hydraulic engine that allegedly runs for nine days without additional fuel, questioning its practicality.
- Others assert that no engine can produce work without an energy input, dismissing the concept of over unity as unrealistic.
- A participant critiques the links provided, suggesting that one describes a car powered by vegetable oil, which does not relate to over unity, highlighting a misunderstanding of fuel requirements.
- Concerns are raised about the reliability of the claims made in the links, with one participant labeling the information as a "total crock" and noting that the only plausible aspect is the tip-jet function, which requires an energy source.
- Another participant connects the tip-jet function to Hero's steam engine, indicating historical precedents for such technology.
- One participant concludes that the engine is a scam, arguing that the design simply shows a turbine powered by a pump, which ceases to function when the pump is turned off.
Areas of Agreement / Disagreement
Participants generally disagree on the functionality and practicality of the Clem Conical Pump Engine, with multiple competing views on the validity of the claims made in the sources referenced. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the engine's potential as a functional machine.
Contextual Notes
Participants express uncertainty about the definitions of terms like "over unity" and the assumptions underlying the claims made in the links. There is a lack of consensus on the practical implications of the proposed engine designs.