Is the Fifth Force the Next Breakthrough in Physics?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concept of the "fifth force" in physics, which is considered an emerging and experimental idea. Participants explore various topics for an essay, weighing the fifth force against other scientific concepts such as quantum computing, dark matter, and dark energy.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express skepticism about the fifth force, suggesting it is too hypothetical for an essay topic.
  • Others propose quantum computing as a more substantial and realistic subject, citing its relevance and availability of information.
  • Dark matter and dark energy are mentioned as alternative topics, with some participants noting their complexity and the lack of understanding surrounding them.
  • A participant references a preprint study related to the fifth force, indicating that there is substantial background material available for exploration.
  • There is a suggestion to focus on one of dark matter or dark energy due to their distinct nature.
  • One participant argues that researching the fifth force is valid and connects it to ongoing experiments, asserting it is a good example of the scientific method in action.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally disagree on the viability of the fifth force as an essay topic, with some favoring it while others prefer more established subjects like quantum computing or dark matter. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best topic choice.

Contextual Notes

Participants express varying levels of confidence in the availability of information on the fifth force compared to other topics, indicating differing assumptions about what constitutes a suitable subject for an essay.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for students or individuals interested in emerging scientific concepts, particularly those exploring topics for essays or research in physics and cosmology.

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I have to write an essay on a current scientific idea or concept that is still considered emerging or experimental. Does anyone have any ideas as to what topic I should write? I'm looking for more physics-related topics, and I've considered writing about the "fifth force," though I'm not sure that there's enough information to write a 500 word essay on.

Any ideas?? :D?
 
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I think that quantum computers are a less hypothetical and more realistic subject. And there is more to read about it on the internet, that isn't questionable like "the 5th force".
 
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astro_chara said:
I have to write an essay on a current scientific idea or concept that is still considered emerging or experimental. Does anyone have any ideas as to what topic I should write? I'm looking for more physics-related topics, and I've considered writing about the "fifth force," though I'm not sure that there's enough information to write a 500 word essay on.

Any ideas?? :D?

Why not? 500 words wouldn't scratch the background. http://arxiv.org/abs/1604.07411 is the preprint version of the study. You should also look at the Hungarian study, and many of the citations.
 
fresh_42 said:
I think that quantum computers are a less hypothetical and more realistic subject. And there is more to read about it on the internet, that isn't questionable like "the 5th force".
Quantum computers sound like a super great idea! I think I'm looking for more scientific concepts though. Do you have any ideas? I feel like the fifth force is definitely way too hypothetical.
 
astro_chara said:
Quantum computers sound like a super great idea! I think I'm looking for more scientific concepts though. Do you have any ideas? I feel like the fifth force is definitely way too hypothetical.
Well, I think quantum computers are very scientific, on the hardware side as well as on the software side with completely new algorithms.
Other "more scientific" concepts would be dark matter or dark energy. However, nobody on Earth really knows what they are.
How about superconductivity and the efforts on the temperature scale? Or the various attempts on a stable plasma for fission processes? Or - again very hypothetical - why scientists don't expect an element 119 to be created any time soon.
 
In actuality, quantum computers is a substantial topic. But as this essay is for a Natural Science school type thing, I want to convey my interests in physics and cosmology. Like you mentioned, dark matter or dark energy would be a pretty good topic. A lot better than the fifth force haha
 
astro_chara said:
In actuality, quantum computers is a substantial topic. But as this essay is for a Natural Science school type thing, I want to convey my interests in physics and cosmology. Like you mentioned, dark matter or dark energy would be a pretty good topic. A lot better than the fifth force haha
If you do so, you should concentrate on one of the two as they are completely different phenomena. You can search here on PF for threads about them.

Or you can write about our cosmic address. (The little red dot is us,)

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astro_chara said:
In actuality, quantum computers is a substantial topic. But as this essay is for a Natural Science school type thing, I want to convey my interests in physics and cosmology. Like you mentioned, dark matter or dark energy would be a pretty good topic. A lot better than the fifth force haha

Quantum computing is an application of natural science, specifically physics.

Why would dark matter or energy be "better"? In fact, researching the former actually somewhat led to the paper linked above. There are currently experiments underway to test the hypothesis. It's good science, and a good way to see the scientific method in action - not to mention it's quite a bit more "emergent and experimental". (Read: more focused of a topic than either three of the broad categories mentioned so far.)

Just my opinion.
 
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I know this thread has already died, but I did decide on an essay topic, that being the fifth fundamental force of nature. Below is a link to my blog which holds my finished essay regarding this topic: Edit by mod: link to blog deleted
 
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