Is the Graph of a Continuous Function Closed if the Spaces are T2 and T1?

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The discussion revolves around the question of whether the graph of a continuous function from a topological space X to a T2-space Y is closed in the product space X x Y. The participants explore various approaches to proving this property, examining the implications of continuity and the Hausdorff condition on Y.

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  • One participant suggests that to show the graph G is closed, it is necessary to prove that its complement is open, leveraging the properties of T1 and T2 spaces.
  • Another participant points out that the preimage of {f(x)} is not necessarily the singleton set {x}, indicating a misunderstanding in the initial reasoning.
  • A different approach is proposed where G is viewed as the inverse image of the diagonal set {(y,y)} in Y x Y, suggesting that the closed nature of the diagonal in a Hausdorff space could be useful.
  • One participant attempts a proof using nets and the continuity of projections, exploring the implications of convergence in the context of the graph's closure.
  • Concerns are raised about whether the equality of projections from nets implies the equality of the nets themselves, highlighting potential gaps in the reasoning.

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The discussion features multiple competing views and approaches to the problem, with no consensus reached on the validity of any particular method or conclusion.

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Participants express uncertainty regarding the implications of continuity and the properties of nets in topological spaces, as well as the relationship between the components of converging nets.

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Problem. Let X be a topological space, and Y a T2-space (i.e. a Haussdorf topological space). Let f : X --> Y be a continuous function. One needs to show that the graph of , i.e. the set G = {(x, f(x)) : x is in X} is closed in X x Y.

Attempt of proof. To show what we need to show, we have to prove that the complement of G is open. Now, since Y is a Haussdorf space, one can show that it is a T1-space too, i.e. that every set containing a single point is closed. So, for every x, {f(x)} is closed in Y. Further on, since f is continuous, the preimage of every closed set is a closed set too, so, for any f(x), {x} is closed in X. I feel I'm getting very warm, but I got stuck anyway. The complement of G in X x Y is X x Y \ G = X x Y \ U (x, f(x)) (where the union goes through all x in X) = \cap [(X x Y) \ (x, f(x))]. Now, if X and Y are T1-spaces, can one show that X x Y is a T1 space, too? But then we'd in general have an infinite intersection of open sets, which doesn't need to be open.

Thanks in advance for a push.
 
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Some comments: the preimage of {f(x)} is not necessarily x.

One way that I think will work is that G is the inverse image of {(y,y)} < Y x Y under a nice map. Using the fact that Y is Hausdorff I think you can show that the diagonal set ({(y,y)}) is closed.
 
eok20 said:
Some comments: the preimage of {f(x)} is not necessarily x.

Oh, of course! For some weird reason, I assumed f to be injective.

eok20 said:
One way that I think will work is that G is the inverse image of {(y,y)} < Y x Y under a nice map. Using the fact that Y is Hausdorff I think you can show that the diagonal set ({(y,y)}) is closed.

OK, I'll try to look into it.
 
Another attempt of a proof, a bit different than suggested.

So, to review, given f : X --> Y, with f continuous and Y Haussdorf (or T2), we have to show that the graph G of f is closed in X x Y (the closed graph theorem).

If we show that Cl(G) is a subset of G, then Cl(G) = G, and G is closed.

Let x = (a, b) be from Cl(G). Then there exists a net n : D --> G such that n --> (a, b). This implies the convergence of its components, i.e. n = (n1, n2) -- > (a, b). Since f is continuous, and n1 is a net in X which converges to a, the composition net f o n1 must converge to f(a). So, the net n' = (n1, f o n1) converges to (a, f(a)).

Let p1 and p2 be the projections from X x Y to X and Y respectively, defined with p1(x, y) = x and p2(x, y) = y. Since they are continuous, for every net N : D --> X x Y which converges to some (x0, y0), we have p1 o N --> x0 and p2 o N --> y0.

If we apply the projections p1 and p2 with the nets n and n', we obtain p1 o n --> a, p2 o n = b, p1 o n' --> a and p2 o n' --> f(a).

Now, the part I'm not exactly sure about (regardless of the same limits, of course) - does p1 o n equal p1 o n', since the first components od n and n' are equal? If so, can we conclude that n and n' are equal? If so, it follows easily from the other two relations that b = f(a), since Y is Haussdorf, so x = (a, b) = (a, f(a)) and hence lies in G.

Thanks in advance for anyone with enough patience for this.
 
Actually, after thinking a bit more, it seems pretty obvious that p1 o n = p1 o n' doesn't imply n = n', because it's only about the first components.

Still, I feel I could be on the right track with the work up to this absurd conclusion.
 

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