Is the limit of the sequence $\left(1+\frac{1}{\sqrt{n}}\right)^n$ infinite?

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The discussion revolves around the convergence of the sequences $\left(1+\frac{1}{\sqrt{n}}\right)^n$ and $\left(1+\frac{1}{2n}\right)^{2n}$. Participants explore the limits of these sequences and whether they approach infinity or a finite value.

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  • Some participants propose that the limit of $\left(1+\frac{1}{\sqrt{n}}\right)^n$ can be expressed as $\left(\left(1+\frac{1}{\sqrt{n}}\right)^{\sqrt{n}}\right)^{\sqrt{n}}$ and question if this equals $e^{\sqrt{n}}$, suggesting it diverges to infinity.
  • Others argue against the validity of deducing limits in the manner suggested, referencing the limit definition and providing a counterexample involving $e$.
  • A participant suggests using the limit definition to show that $\left(1+\frac{1}{\sqrt{m}}\right)^{m}$ diverges to infinity based on a derived inequality.
  • For the sequence $\left(1+\frac{1}{2n}\right)^{2n}$, participants discuss the limit of $c_n = \left(1+\frac{1}{2n}\right)^{n}$ and derive that it approaches $\sqrt{e}$, although some express uncertainty about further deductions.
  • There is a suggestion to rewrite the sequence $\left(1+\frac{1}{2n}\right)^{n}$ in a different form to analyze its limit, which leads to a conclusion of $\sqrt{e}$ by some participants.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the limit of $\left(1+\frac{1}{\sqrt{n}}\right)^n$, with some asserting it diverges to infinity while others challenge this conclusion. There is agreement on the limit of $\left(1+\frac{1}{2n}\right)^{2n}$ approaching $\sqrt{e}$, but the reasoning behind this is debated.

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Participants express uncertainty regarding the application of limit definitions and the implications of their deductions. The discussion includes various mathematical approaches and interpretations, which may depend on specific assumptions or definitions not fully articulated.

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Hello! (Wave)

I want to check the convergence of the sequences $\left( \left( 1+\frac{1}{\sqrt{n}}\right)^n\right)$, $\left( \left( 1+\frac{1}{2n}\right)^n\right)$.

We know that $e^x=\lim_{n \to +\infty} \left( 1+\frac{x}{n}\right)^n$.

We have that $\lim_{n \to +\infty} \left( 1+\frac{1}{\sqrt{n}}\right)^n=\lim_{n \to +\infty} \left( \left( 1+\frac{1}{\sqrt{n}}\right)^{\sqrt{n}}\right)^{\sqrt{n}}$.

Is the latter equal to $\lim_{n \to +\infty} e^{\sqrt{n}}=+\infty$ ?

So does it hold that $\lim_{n \to +\infty} \left( \left( 1+\frac{1}{\sqrt{n}}\right)^{\sqrt{n}}\right)^{\sqrt{n}}=\lim_{n \to +\infty} \left( \lim_{n \to +\infty}\left( 1+\frac{1}{\sqrt{n}}\right)^{\sqrt{n}}\right)^{\sqrt{n}} $ ?

If so, why? (Thinking)
 
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evinda said:
Hello! (Wave)

I want to check the convergence of the sequences $\left( \left( 1+\frac{1}{\sqrt{n}}\right)^n\right)$, $\left( \left( 1+\frac{1}{2n}\right)^n\right)$.

We know that $e^x=\lim_{n \to +\infty} \left( 1+\frac{x}{n}\right)^n$.

We have that $\lim_{n \to +\infty} \left( 1+\frac{1}{\sqrt{n}}\right)^n=\lim_{n \to +\infty} \left( \left( 1+\frac{1}{\sqrt{n}}\right)^{\sqrt{n}}\right)^{\sqrt{n}}$.

Is the latter equal to $\lim_{n \to +\infty} e^{\sqrt{n}}=+\infty$ ?

So does it hold that $\lim_{n \to +\infty} \left( \left( 1+\frac{1}{\sqrt{n}}\right)^{\sqrt{n}}\right)^{\sqrt{n}}=\lim_{n \to +\infty} \left( \lim_{n \to +\infty}\left( 1+\frac{1}{\sqrt{n}}\right)^{\sqrt{n}}\right)^{\sqrt{n}} $ ?

If so, why? (Thinking)

Hey evinda!

I'm afraid that we cannot generally make such a deduction.
Consider for instance that:
$$e=\lim (1+\frac 1n)^n \ne \lim\left(\lim (1+\frac 1n)\right)^n = 1$$

Instead we should go back to the definition of a limit.
From your formula for $e^x$ we have that:
$$\forall\varepsilon>0\ \exists N\ \forall n> N:\left|\left( 1+\frac{x}{n}\right)^n - e^x \right| <\varepsilon \quad\Rightarrow\quad \left( 1+\frac{x}{n}\right)^n > e^x-\varepsilon$$don't we? (Wondering)

If we pick $x=1,\ \varepsilon=e-2,\ n=\sqrt m$, this becomes:
$$\exists N\ \forall m> N^2:\left( 1+\frac{1}{\sqrt m}\right)^{\sqrt m} > 2\quad\Rightarrow\quad
\left( 1+\frac{1}{\sqrt m}\right)^{m} > 2^{\sqrt m}$$
Since the right side diverges to $+\infty$, so does the left side. (Thinking)
 
Klaas van Aarsen said:
Hey evinda!

I'm afraid that we cannot generally make such a deduction.
Consider for instance that:
$$e=\lim (1+\frac 1n)^n \ne \lim\left(\lim (1+\frac 1n)\right)^n = 1$$

Instead we should go back to the definition of a limit.
From your formula for $e^x$ we have that:
$$\forall\varepsilon>0\ \exists N\ \forall n> N:\left( 1+\frac{x}{n}\right)^n > e^x-\varepsilon$$
don't we? (Wondering)

If we pick $x=1,\ \varepsilon=e-2,\ n=\sqrt m$, this becomes:
$$\exists N\ \forall m> N^2:\left( 1+\frac{1}{\sqrt m}\right)^{\sqrt m} > 2\quad\Rightarrow\quad
\left( 1+\frac{1}{\sqrt m}\right)^{m} > 2^{\sqrt m}$$
Since the right side diverges to $+\infty$, so does the left side. (Thinking)
I see... (Nod)

For the sequence $\left( 1+\frac{1}{2n}\right)^{2n}$, I have thought the following.

Let $c_n=\left( 1+\frac{1}{2n}\right)^{n}$.

We have that $c_n^2=\left( 1+\frac{1}{2n}\right)^{2n}$ and so $\lim_{n \to +\infty} c_n^2=e$, so $1 \leq c_n^2 \leq 4$, for $n$ large enough.

Then we have that $1 \leq c_n \leq 2$.

But this doesn't help us... How else can we deduce something about the convergence of the sequence? (Thinking)
 
evinda said:
I see... (Nod)

For the sequence $\left( 1+\frac{1}{2n}\right)^{2n}$, I have thought the following.

Let $c_n=\left( 1+\frac{1}{2n}\right)^{n}$.

We have that $c_n^2=\left( 1+\frac{1}{2n}\right)^{2n}$ and so $\lim_{n \to +\infty} c_n^2=e$, so $1 \leq c_n^2 \leq 4$, for $n$ large enough.

Then we have that $1 \leq c_n \leq 2$.

But this doesn't help us... How else can we deduce something about the convergence of the sequence? (Thinking)

How about writing it as:
$$\left( 1+\frac{1}{2n}\right)^{n} = \left( 1+\frac{\frac 12}{n}\right)^{n}$$
(Thinking)
 
Klaas van Aarsen said:
How about writing it as:
$$\left( 1+\frac{1}{2n}\right)^{n} = \left( 1+\frac{\frac 12}{n}\right)^{n}$$
(Thinking)

Ah yes, and so we get that it is equal to $\sqrt{e}$, right? (Smile)
 
evinda said:
Ah yes, and so we get that it is equal to $\sqrt{e}$, right?

Yep. (Nod)
 
Klaas van Aarsen said:
Yep. (Nod)

Nice, thank you... (Happy)
 

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