Is the measurement of "IQ" outdated, and needs replacement?

In summary, there is no attempt in the field of psychology, or otherwise, to devise a better measure of predictive power on educational/social/financial success rather than a monolithic and rather outdated concept of "IQ".
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Posty McPostface
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Upon reading about what members of this forum think about "IQ" (they don't think highly of it if you're wondering), and the rather inherent discrimination that measuring IQ comparatively to other individuals/nations/races/genders have/has, is there any attempt in the field of psychology, or otherwise, to devise a better measure of predictive power on educational/social/financial success rather than a monolithic and rather outdated concept of "IQ"?
 
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Posty McPostface said:
Upon reading about what members of this forum think about "IQ" (they don't think highly of it if you're wondering), and the rather inherent discrimination that measuring IQ comparatively to other individuals/nations/races/genders have/has, is there any attempt in the field of psychology, or otherwise, to devise a better measure of predictive power on educational/social/financial success rather than a monolithic and rather outdated concept of "IQ"?
For what purpose?
 
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russ_watters said:
For what purpose?

Well, many parents hold the belief that having a child with a high IQ is predictive of their future academic performance. So, then how do you deal with a kid with average or sub-average IQ? There really isn't much that can be done to alter one's IQ after the age of 10.

Instead, it would be of much more utility to focus on traits that lead to academic or financial success, such as delayed gratification, fostering interest in a field of study, conscientiousness, a hard work ethic and so on.
 
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Posty McPostface said:
Well, many parents hold the belief that having a child with a high IQ is predictive of their future academic performance. So, then how do you deal with a kid with average or sub-average IQ? There really isn't much that can be done to alter one's IQ after the age of 10.
Well that's very on-point. See this for an example:
Parents may request an evaluation to determine if their child is exceptional and in need of special services by contacting their child’s guidance counselor. Gifted students who have an IQ score of 130 or higher and demonstrate, through multiple criteria, that they are eligible for and in need of special programming. An IQ of at least 130 is obtained by only the highest 2-3% students on measures of intellectual ability. Students with IQ scores in the Superior range (120 to 129) may be eligible for Gifted Support if they demonstrate superiority in academic achievement and ratings by parents and teachers.
http://www.npenn.org/Page/15710

That's my school district and I was so identified, in elementary school. But my grades never reflected my "superior"/"exceptional" label. But to answer your question: except with regard to using it as a tool when you are required to use it as a tool, it isn't really something you need to deal with directly. A parents' approach to guiding their kids has to start long before they take the IQ test and be based on their kids' particular demonstrated abilities/deficiencies and the later taking/results of the IQ test don't change that.
Instead, it would be of much more utility to focus on traits that lead to academic or financial success, such as delayed gratification, fostering interest in a field of study, conscientiousness, a hard work ethic and so on.
That's true, but previously you were asking about a measurement. And my point regarding this specific example is that outcomes are in this case self-contained measurements. If the outcome you are looking for is good grades, then the measure/predictor of good grades is good grades. No proxy required.
 
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Actually you can improve your IQ, there have been many books written on the subject. Have you ever heard that watching tv lowers you IQ? While this may not be a positive change, it is still a change. However I do agree that focusing on beneficial skills may be a more productive and successful endeavor. I try to work on both.
 
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Posty McPostface said:
Upon reading about what members of this forum think about "IQ" (they don't think highly of it if you're wondering), and the rather inherent discrimination that measuring IQ comparatively to other individuals/nations/races/genders have/has, is there any attempt in the field of psychology, or otherwise, to devise a better measure of predictive power on educational/social/financial success rather than a monolithic and rather outdated concept of "IQ"?
IQ tests were developed to identify children with learning disabilities. Russ gave another example of how they are being used by schools.

And yet another IQ thread is closed.
 

1. What is the "IQ" measurement and why is it important?

The "IQ" measurement, or Intelligence Quotient, is a numerical score that is used to measure a person's cognitive abilities and intelligence. It is important because it is often used to determine a person's academic and career potential.

2. Is the "IQ" measurement outdated?

There is ongoing debate among scientists about whether the "IQ" measurement is outdated. Some argue that it is a limited measure of intelligence and does not accurately capture a person's overall cognitive abilities and potential. Others argue that it is still a valid and useful measure.

3. What are the limitations of the "IQ" measurement?

The "IQ" measurement has several limitations, including cultural and societal biases, as well as the fact that it only measures certain aspects of intelligence, such as logical and analytical thinking. It does not take into account emotional intelligence, creativity, or other important factors.

4. Are there alternative measures of intelligence?

Yes, there are alternative measures of intelligence, such as multiple intelligences theory, which proposes that there are different types of intelligence, including linguistic, spatial, and interpersonal. There are also other tests and assessments that aim to measure different aspects of intelligence.

5. Should the "IQ" measurement be replaced?

This is a highly debated topic and there is no clear consensus among scientists. Some argue that the "IQ" measurement should be replaced with more comprehensive and inclusive measures of intelligence. Others argue that it is still a useful and valid measure, although it may need to be supplemented with other assessments.

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