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The discussion centers around the convergence or divergence of the series defined by the sum of 1/n from n=1 to infinity, commonly known as the harmonic series. Participants explore the properties of this series, its divergence, and comparisons with other series.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that the series is divergent.
  • It is noted that the series is referred to as the harmonic series, which is also stated to be divergent.
  • Others mention that the series ##\sum_{n=1}^{\infty}\frac{1}{n^{k}}## converges for any k greater than 1.
  • A participant requests further clarification on the divergence and asks for detailed steps or answers related to the original question.
  • One participant suggests using the "integral test" to prove divergence and explains the relationship between the sum and the area under the curve of the function 1/x.
  • Another participant provides an alternative perspective on divergence by grouping terms in the series and comparing them to a constant sum.

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Participants generally agree that the series is divergent, but there are varying explanations and approaches to understanding this divergence. The discussion includes multiple viewpoints and does not reach a consensus on the need for further clarification or the specifics of the divergence proof.

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Some participants express uncertainty regarding the steps to prove divergence and the nature of the question posed, indicating a need for further exploration of the topic.

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The series is divergent.
 
That's called harmonic series and it is divergent as jbstemp said. But on the other hand, ##\sum_{n=1}^{\infty}\frac{1}{n^{k}}## converges if ##k## is any number larger than 1.
 
jbstemp said:
The series is divergent.
Thanks jbstemp.
 
hilbert2 said:
That's called harmonic series and it is divergent as jbstemp said. But on the other hand, ##\sum_{n=1}^{\infty}\frac{1}{n^{k}}## converges if ##k## is any number larger than 1.
Thanks hilbert2 but could you explain the question I asked in more details?
 
nirky said:
Thanks hilbert2 but could you explain the question I asked in more details?
Maybe tell the steps to it and does it have any awnser?
 
What kind of answer do you want? You have already been told the series is "divergent" which means that the infinite sum does not have any finite answer. You could prove that using the "integral test". We can extend the sum to all x rather than just integer n by using the continuous variable "x" rather than just the integer "n".
Looking at a graph of y= 1/x, you can see that the curve, between x= n and x= n+ 1, lies below the horizontal line 1/n. That tells is that the area under the curve, the integral, is less than the sum of the area of rectangles having width 1 and height 1/n, the sum of 1/n.

That area is given by \int_1^\infty \frac{1}{x} dx= \left[ln(x)\right]_1^\infty but that improper integral has no answer since ln(x) has no limit as x goes to infinity. There is no finite "area under the curve" so there can be no finite area of the rectangles which would be larger.
 
Another way of seeing divergence.
1+1/2+(1/3+1/4)+(1/5+1/6+1/7+1/8)+(1/9+1/10+1/11+1/12+1/13+1/14+1/15+1/16)+...>1+1/2+1/2+1/2+1/2+...
 
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