Is there a limit to information storage on the surface of a black hole?

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The discussion centers on the limit of information storage on the surface of a black hole, specifically addressing the concept that one can store approximately four bits of information per Planck area. This conclusion is derived from the Bekenstein-Hawking entropy formula, S = A/4L_p^2, where S represents entropy, A is the area, and L_p is the Planck length. The conversation clarifies common misconceptions regarding the relationship between entropy and information storage in black holes, emphasizing the significance of precise calculations in theoretical physics.

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Hello,

I'll try to explain this as well as I can...

I was watching NOVA's special on The Fabric of the Cosmos and the segment on how information is both lost in the black hole and stored on the surface got me wondering "Is there a limit to how much information can be stored on the surface of a black hole?"

Any insight or feedback is appreciated.
 
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The standard answer is one bit per "Planck area". This estimate comes from the expression for black entropy which says S = A/G_N (S is the entropy, A is the area, and G is Newton's constant). In 4d Newton's constant is related to the Planck length by G_N = L_p^2. Hence the entropy is S = A/L_p^2. Since it is argued that a black hole is the most compact object possible, the maximal possible entropy should be that of a black hole, and hence the maximal amount of information that can be stored is roughly one bit per Planck area.

Does that help?
 
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