Is There a Relationship Between Principal Quantum Number and Amplitude?

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The discussion centers on the relationship between the principal quantum number (n) and amplitude in classical waves. It is established that the principal quantum number indicates the energy levels of electrons in an atom and does not directly correlate with amplitude. The Schrödinger equation for the hydrogen atom confirms that n relates to eigenvalues rather than amplitude. Additionally, the energy level is only degenerate under specific conditions, which can be altered by external fields and spin-orbit coupling.

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The principal quantum number refers to the energy of the electron in an atom, and the average distance of the electron from the nucleus. It seems to me to be analogous to the concept of amplitude for a classical wave. Is there a relation?
 
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rauletechuleta said:
The principal quantum number refers to the energy of the electron in an atom, and the average distance of the electron from the nucleus. It seems to me to be analogous to the concept of amplitude for a classical wave. Is there a relation?

This is such a vague similarities. It is like claiming that a cow is analogous to a basketball just because from very far, the cow looks like a sphere.

To be able to make such comparison, you have to show somehow that "n" is related to the amplitude of some kind of a wave. This is not true if you solve for the Schrödinger equation for the H atom, let's say. "n" doesn't strictly represent the amplitude. It does, however, relates to an eigenvalue.

Furthermore, to be complete, it refers to the "energy" of the energy level only in the degenerate case. One can remove the degeneracy via external fields, and including spin-orbit coupling in the atom.

Zz.
 
It doesn't seem like claiming that at all. Your comparison refers to the way the eye's technical limitation prevents the subject from discerning the correct shape of something at a distance. In your example, a basketball would not be analogous to a basketball if you saw them at different distances. Your example is more about perception, while my question is more about definition.

I'm going to check out what an eigenvalue. Thank you ZapperZ
 
rauletechuleta said:
It doesn't seem like claiming that at all. Your comparison refers to the way the eye's technical limitation prevents the subject from discerning the correct shape of something at a distance. In your example, a basketball would not be analogous to a basketball if you saw them at different distances. Your example is more about perception, while my question is more about definition.

But that is, in effect, what you are using, a "perception" of the connect of "n" to the amplitude of a classical wave. There's nothing in the mathematics, if you look at the wavefunction of a H atom, for there to be any kind of resemblance between the two.

Zz.
 
Thank you.
 
Time reversal invariant Hamiltonians must satisfy ##[H,\Theta]=0## where ##\Theta## is time reversal operator. However, in some texts (for example see Many-body Quantum Theory in Condensed Matter Physics an introduction, HENRIK BRUUS and KARSTEN FLENSBERG, Corrected version: 14 January 2016, section 7.1.4) the time reversal invariant condition is introduced as ##H=H^*##. How these two conditions are identical?

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