Is There Proof for the Cross Product Matrix Formula?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the proof of the matrix formula for the cross product, particularly its relationship to the magnitude of the cross product and its geometric interpretation. Participants explore various aspects of the formula, including its use as a computational tool and its definitions.

Discussion Character

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  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification
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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants inquire about the proof for the matrix formula of the cross product, referencing its use in educational videos and resources.
  • One participant describes the matrix formula as a mnemonic device for computing the cross product in Cartesian coordinates.
  • Another participant emphasizes that the expression |A x B| = |A||B|sin(θ) refers to the magnitude of the cross product, not its definition.
  • A later reply suggests that the cross product can be defined in terms of a unit vector perpendicular to both A and B, with direction determined by the right-hand rule.
  • Participants express varying levels of understanding and clarity regarding the definitions and geometric interpretations of the cross product.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the proof of the matrix formula or its definitions, with multiple competing views and interpretations presented throughout the discussion.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note the lack of geometric definitions in certain resources and the potential confusion surrounding the distinction between the magnitude of the cross product and its vector form.

prashant singh
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Is there any proof for the matrixx formula of the cross product. I am asking this because I have seen many videos and they have used the matrixx formula and then proved that ||A X B|| = ||A|||B||sin(theta), khan academy also used the same method
 
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prashant singh said:
Is there any proof for the matrixx formula of the cross product. I am asking this because I have seen many videos and they have used the matrixx formula and then proved that ||A X B|| = ||A|||B||sin(theta), khan academy also used the same method
What do you mean by "matrixx formula"?
 
The matrix formula aka the cross product determinant is more of a mnemonic device to help you compute the cross product in a Cartesian coordinate system.

from wikipedia (see the matrix notation and the Sarrus' Rule:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cross_product
 
See jedishrfu answer
 
jedishrfu said:
Vector cross product is defined as AxB = |A||B|sin(theta) where theta is the angle between A and B.
Sorry, this isn't the definition of the cross product A x B. It's the definition of the magnitude or norm of A x B; i.e., |A x B|.
jedishrfu said:
In the pdf in the link, the author never gives a geometric definition of the cross product. This product could be defined as A x B = (|A||B| sin(θ)) u, where u is a unit vector that is perpendicular to both A and B. The orientation of u can be determined using the right-hand rule (i.e., if you let the fingers of your right hand curl around from A to B, your thumb will point in the direction of u).
 
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My apologies I forgot to mention that the resultant vector is perpendicular to both A and B and follows the right-hand rule for direction as determined via rotation from A to B.

Alas, still learning what I forgot and forgetting what I've I've relearned.
 
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