Is this power series a convergent series?

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The discussion revolves around the convergence of a specific series presented by a participant, along with inquiries about the radius of convergence. The context includes mathematical reasoning and exploration of series definitions.

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  • One participant presents a series involving binomial coefficients and a beta function, seeking to determine its convergence and radius of convergence.
  • Several participants provide guidance on formatting LaTeX code for clarity in the forum.
  • A participant argues that the series is not a power series and thus does not have a defined radius of convergence, suggesting that it can be expressed as a finite series instead.
  • Another participant elaborates on the transformation of the series into an integral form, indicating that it can be expressed as a finite series and therefore is convergent.
  • A later reply acknowledges the explanation provided and expresses gratitude for the clarification on the nature of the series.

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Participants express differing views on whether the series qualifies as a power series and whether the concept of radius of convergence applies. While one participant concludes that the series is convergent, others have not explicitly agreed on this point, leaving the discussion somewhat unresolved.

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The discussion includes assumptions about the definitions of power series and convergence, which may not be universally agreed upon. The mathematical steps leading to the conclusion of convergence are not fully resolved, as they depend on interpretations of the series structure.

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Hi everyone!
I have got this series in a part of my research. I need to check if this is a convergent series and if so, what is the radius of the convergence?

Here is the series..
\[\sum_{i=0}^{\infty}(-1)^{i}{b-1\choose i}B(y+ac+ci,\,n-y+1)\]

Sorry if my LateX code is not visible( I am currently learning LaTeX as said in the Forum rules), see the attached image below!

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Here, a,b and c are any three positive real numbers and y=0,1,2,...n

Thank you for your kind support!
 

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Hi chamilka, just wrap the LaTeX code in [/ TEX] tags like so:<br /> <br /> sum_{i=0}^{\infty}(-1)^{i}{b-1\choose i}B(y+ac+ci,\,n-y+1)[ /TEX]&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; (Just remove the space before the forward slash in the closing tex tag)
 
daigo said:
Hi chamilka, just wrap the LaTeX code in [/ TEX] tags like so:<br /> <br /> sum_{i=0}^{\infty}(-1)^{i}{b-1\choose i}B(y+ac+ci,\,n-y+1)[ /TEX]&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; (Just remove the space before the forward slash in the closing tex tag)
&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Wrong!, on this site wrap the LaTeX with either \$ .. \$ or \$\$ .. \$\$ tags.&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; CB
 
daigo said:
Hi chamilka, just wrap the LaTeX code in [/ TEX] tags like so:<br /> <br /> sum_{i=0}^{\infty}(-1)^{i}{b-1\choose i}B(y+ac+ci,\,n-y+1)[ /TEX]&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; (Just remove the space before the forward slash in the closing tex tag)
&lt;br /&gt; and &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;blockquote data-attributes=&quot;member: 703383&quot; data-quote=&quot;CaptainBlack&quot; data-source=&quot;post: 6668610&quot; class=&quot;bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch&quot;&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;bbCodeBlock-title&quot;&gt; CaptainBlack said: &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;bbCodeBlock-content&quot;&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent &quot;&gt; Wrong!, on this site wrap the LaTeX with either \$ .. \$ or \$\$ .. \$\$ tags.&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; CB &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt; Thank you daigo and CaptainBlack for your kind LateX teaching.. Special thanks to CaptainBlack who just edited my post..
 
CaptainBlack said:
Wrong!, on this site wrap the LaTeX with either \$ .. \$ or \$\$ .. \$\$ tags.

CB
I've never done this before, I always used the tags because I&#039;m so used to it...but then how do you write dollar signs?<br /> <br /> <blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="" data-source="" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> test i made $25 today and $30 yesterday test </div> </div> </blockquote>
 
daigo said:
I've never done this before, I always used the tags because I&#039;m so used to it...but then how do you write dollar signs?
<br /> <br /> You escape them thus: $\$5,600$. Use a backslash before the dollar sign <i>inside a math environment</i>.
 
daigo said:
I've never done this before, I always used the tags because I&#039;m so used to it...but then how do you write dollar signs?
<br /> <br /> You look at how I got the dollar signs to display in the text you quoted.<br /> <br /> CB
 
chamilka said:
Hi everyone!
I have got this series in a part of my research. I need to check if this is a convergent series and if so, what is the radius of the convergence?

Here is the series..
\[\sum_{i=0}^{\infty}(-1)^{i}{b-1\choose i}B(y+ac+ci,\,n-y+1)\]

Sorry if my LateX code is not visible( I am currently learning LaTeX as said in the Forum rules), see the attached image below!

View attachment 225

Here, a,b and c are any three positive real numbers and y=0,1,2,...n

Thank you for your kind support!

Hi chamilka, :)

Firstly I think you should review what a power series is. The given series is not a power series and the radius of convergence is defined only for power series.

\[\sum_{i=0}^{\infty}(-1)^{i}{b-1\choose i}B(y+ac+ci,\,n-y+1)\]

Using the method that we have used http://www.mathhelpboards.com/threads/1358-Chamilka-s-Question-from-Math-Help-Forum?p=6494#post6494, this series can be expressed as the following integral.

\begin{eqnarray}

\sum_{i=0}^{\infty}(-1)^{i}{b-1\choose i}B(y+ac+ci,\,n-y+1)&=&\int_{0}^{1}x^{y+ac-1}(1-x)^{n-y}(1-x^c)^{b-1}\,dx\\

&=&\int_{0}^{1}x^{y+ac-1}\left(\sum_{j=0}^{n-y}(-1)^{j}{n-y\choose j}x^{j}\right)(1-x^c)^{b-1}\,dx\\

&=&\sum_{j=0}^{n-y}\int_{0}^{1}x^{y+ac+j-1}(-1)^{j}{n-y\choose j}(1-x^c)^{b-1}\,dx\\

&=&\sum_{j=0}^{n-y}\int_{0}^{1}(-1)^{j}{n-y\choose j}(x^c)^{\left(\frac{y}{c}+a+\frac{j}{c}-\frac{1}{c}\right)}(1-x^c)^{b-1}\,dx\\

&=&\sum_{j=0}^{n-y}(-1)^{j}{n-y\choose j}\int_{0}^{1}(x^c)^{\left(\frac{y}{c}+a+\frac{j}{c}-\frac{1}{c}\right)}(1-x^c)^{b-1}\,dx\\

\end{eqnarray}

Let, \(\displaystyle x=z^{\frac{1}{c}}\Rightarrow dx=\frac{1}{c}z^{\frac{1}{c}-1}\,dz\)

\begin{eqnarray}

\therefore\sum_{i=0}^{\infty}(-1)^{i}{b-1\choose i}B(y+ac+ci,\,n-y+1)&=&\sum_{j=0}^{n-y}(-1)^{j}{n-y\choose j}\int_{0}^{1}z^{\left(\frac{y}{c}+a+\frac{j}{c}-\frac{1}{c}\right)}(1-z)^{b-1}\frac{1}{c}z^{\frac{1}{c}-1}\,dz\\

&=&\frac{1}{c}\sum_{j=0}^{n-y}(-1)^{j}{n-y\choose j}\int_{0}^{1}z^{\left(\frac{y}{c}+a+\frac{j}{c}-1\right)}(1-z)^{b-1}\,dz\\

&=&\frac{1}{c}\sum_{j=0}^{n-y}(-1)^{j}{n-y\choose j}B\left(\frac{y}{c}+a+\frac{j}{c},\,b\right)

\end{eqnarray}

\(\sum_{j=0}^{n-y}(-1)^{j}{n-y\choose j}B\left(\frac{y}{c}+a+\frac{j}{c},\,b\right)\) is a finite series since, \(n-y\in\mathbb{Z}^{+}\cup\{0\}\)

Therefore, \(\sum_{i=0}^{\infty}(-1)^{i}{b-1\choose i}B(y+ac+ci,\,n-y+1)\) can be written as a finite series and hence it is convergent.

Kind Regards,
Sudharaka.
 
Sudharaka said:
Hi chamilka, :)

Firstly I think you should review what a power series is. The given series is not a power series and the radius of convergence is defined only for power series.
.......
\(\sum_{j=0}^{n-y}(-1)^{j}{n-y\choose j}B\left(\frac{y}{c}+a+\frac{j}{c},\,b\right)\) is a finite series since, \(n-y\in\mathbb{Z}^{+}\cup\{0\}\)

Therefore, \(\sum_{i=0}^{\infty}(-1)^{i}{b-1\choose i}B(y+ac+ci,\,n-y+1)\) can be written as a finite series and hence it is convergent.

Kind Regards,
Sudharaka.

Thank you very much Sudharaka. I got some idea about the power series and radius of convergence from the wiki articles and from the way you explained that my infinite series is in deed a finite series I got answer to my question without troubling more about PS and RoC.
I honestly express my gratitude.. (Handshake)
 

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