Is This Process Markovian and What Is Its Transition Matrix?

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The discussion revolves around whether a specific stochastic process defined by the number of machines operating on a given day is Markovian, and how to derive its transition matrix. The scope includes theoretical aspects of Markov chains and mathematical reasoning related to conditional probabilities.

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  • One participant presents a problem involving two machines and the probability of their operation based on the previous day's state, seeking help to determine if the process is Markovian.
  • Another participant emphasizes the need to demonstrate first-order conditional independence to establish the Markov property, suggesting that only the current state should influence the next state.
  • A participant expresses difficulty in proving the conditional independence and questions whether to use the formula for conditional probability or to show independent increments instead.
  • There is a suggestion that the probability of the current state depends solely on the previous state, which could imply the Markov property, and a hint is provided on how to manipulate the expressions to show this dependence.
  • One participant notes that if the process is independent, it could simplify the proof, but also acknowledges the importance of demonstrating independence in many Markovian problems.

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Participants express uncertainty regarding the proof of the Markov property and the derivation of the transition matrix. There is no consensus on the approach to take or the correctness of the methods discussed.

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Participants have not fully resolved the mathematical steps necessary to demonstrate the Markov property, and there are unresolved assumptions regarding the independence of increments and the implications for the transition matrix.

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Hello there,
I'm stuck at a problem on markov chains... Could anyone help?
Here it is:
There are two machines that operate or don't during a day. Let $$X(n)$$ be the number of machines operating during the n-th day. Every machine is independently operating during the n-th day with probability $$\frac{1+X(n-1)}{4}$$. Show that the process $$\{ X(n):n=1,2,...\}$$ is markovian and find its transition matrix.
 
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Hey russel and welcome to the forums.

You need to show us what you've tried and what you are thinking.

Markov chains primarily have to have valid probabilities and then need to satisfy 1st order conditional dependence.

So the first hint is that first order conditional independence says that P(X1 = a, X2 = b, X3 = c, blah blah, Xn = whatever | X0 = x) = P(X1 = a|X0 = x). In other words only the current state depends on what happened just before and no more.

What have you thought about for this expression?
 
I tried to prove that P(X(n+1) | X(1),...,X(n))=P(X(n+1) | X(n)) but I can't. Must I use the P(A|B)=P(A,B)/P(B) ? Is it easier to prove that has independent increments and, therefore, it's markovian? The funny part is I found the transition matrix...
Could I just say that the probability X(n) depends only on X(n-1) (if you see the given equation), so it is markovian?
 
russel said:
I tried to prove that P(X(n+1) | X(1),...,X(n))=P(X(n+1) | X(n)) but I can't. Must I use the P(A|B)=P(A,B)/P(B) ? Is it easier to prove that has independent increments and, therefore, it's markovian? The funny part is I found the transition matrix...
Could I just say that the probability X(n) depends only on X(n-1) (if you see the given equation), so it is markovian?

You can equate this long expression with your (X(n) - 1)/4 and then show that only X(n) matters which cancels all the rest of the terms.

Usually what happens in the independent cases is that if something is independent then P(C and D) = P(C)P(D). In many of these proofs you get an expression with you get P(E)P(D)/[P(C)P(D)] = P(E)/P(C) and P(E) = P(X1 = a, X0 = b) and P(C) = P(X0 = b).

In your case though you are given that it only depends on X(n) so you can just use this result directly, but in the future it's important to note that for many Markovian problems you will need to show independence like in the above scenario so that you get the right cancellation.
 

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