Is Time Travel Possible and How Can We Achieve It?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the possibility of time travel, exploring both theoretical and conceptual aspects. Participants examine whether time travel to the future or the past is feasible, referencing principles from physics, particularly relativity, and engaging in thought experiments.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that while traveling into the future is possible through relativistic effects, traveling back in time remains uncertain.
  • One participant humorously notes that everyone is moving into the future at a constant rate, prompting a deeper inquiry into whether we can move into the future faster.
  • Another participant proposes a thought experiment suggesting that if future time travel is possible, then past time travel should also be feasible, questioning the absence of evidence for such discoveries.
  • Concerns are raised about the implications of the laws of thermodynamics on past time travel, specifically regarding mass and energy conservation across different times.
  • Several participants discuss the theoretical mechanisms for backward time travel, such as wormholes and massive rotating cylinders, while noting the impracticality and energy requirements of these concepts.
  • One participant challenges the assumption that time behaves the same when moving backward as it does when moving forward, referencing ongoing research in particle physics that complicates our understanding of time.
  • Another participant emphasizes that the principles of special and general relativity allow for future time travel, suggesting that past time travel might also be possible for reasons not yet understood.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that future time travel is possible according to relativity, but there is significant disagreement and uncertainty regarding the feasibility of past time travel. Multiple competing views and hypotheses are presented without consensus.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge limitations in current understanding, particularly regarding the energy requirements for backward time travel and the implications of thermodynamics. The discussion reflects ongoing debates in theoretical physics without resolving the complexities involved.

  • #31
Also, you see the past when you look up to the black sky in night. Every celestial body you are seeing, you are seeing how they looked, sometimes hours or years or million-billion years back. Since, light has a speed it had to take some time from the light to come to us. There can be at present infinite stars you see which don't exist in reality as they are dead now. While looking through and at those mesmerizing photos from Hubble space telescope, we actually are seeing the past, the past so old sometimes that nor Earth nor sun existed.
 
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  • #32
MikeCB said:
Does absolute zero have anything to do with it?

Because i understand time as a measurement of events (or should i say moments?) and temperature as a measure of atomic/sub-atomic vibration (or something like that) and if absolute zero were to be reached the atomic/sub-atomic bits and bobs at that temperature would be completely still (apparently) as in no events passing by in that area.

No. Due to the uncertainty principle of quantum mechanics (you can only decrease your uncertainty about an object's position by increasing your uncertainty of its momentum, and vice versa), even at absolute zero objects still possesses motion, otherwise the uncertainty principle would be violated.
 
  • #33
Rico L said:
yes but nothing is definite... some how or some day we can

think about it... spacecraft is impossible back hundreds years ago.. people won't even think about it ..

long time ago.. people would think that travel faster than sound is impossible

but they all came possible

so don't be too precise

I agree, information and aspiration leads to inventions. Just in last century, what we humans have achieved is far more than all our discoveries added up. We still think our theories about universe are not entirely correct, there is still a vacant position for the universal theory of everything.
 
  • #34
Smarty7 said:
I agree, information and aspiration leads to inventions. Just in last century, what we humans have achieved is far more than all our discoveries added up. We still think our theories about universe are not entirely correct, there is still a vacant position for the universal theory of everything.

yes which means that we are still not there yet... its a umimaginable long way to go even though we have someone times times better than Einstein
 
  • #35
I think I already answered this question next year.
 
  • #36
Jadaav said:
is time travel possible?

If yes, how is it possible to travel through time?

Can we travel in the future?

Can we travel back in the past?
Hawking believes that we may travel to future when entering wormhole,but it seems impossible to go back.Because there is no anyone come from future as yet.
 
  • #37
But Einstein said that we can't travel to the future but we can travel to the past though.

And I can say that's it true because by me time passes along with us and creates itself along its way and we can't go into a different moment of time that does not exist.

But I still have a doubt if we are moving along with time or not or if we have some replications of ourselves in the future.
 
  • #38
the way a wormhole works is that you fix one end at the present time and make the other end travel at near the speed of light so that it experiences time dilation. As a result of this, future people can enter the time dilated end and go back to the past where the past end is located. But you can only go back as far as when the worm hole was created.. not before that. Since we have not created a worm hole yet then no one from the future can come back in time to visit us.
I'm very surprised that someone of Hawking's stature in the physics world would lend himself to a TV program so full of errors as the one that aired on the Discovery channel.. or was it the History channel? I don't watch them.
 
  • #39
Jadaav said:
But Einstein said that we can't travel to the future but we can travel to the past though.

And I can say that's it true because by me time passes along with us and creates itself along its way and we can't go into a different moment of time that does not exist.

But I still have a doubt if we are moving along with time or not or if we have some replications of ourselves in the future.

Einstein never said that. go google time dilation and learn something
 
  • #40
I read that in a book but wasn't sure of it though.
 
  • #41
Jadaav said:
I read that in a book but wasn't sure of it though.

You should provide the name and author of that book. It seems to be an mistake.

Time travel to the future is "relatively" simple to prove mathematically with Einstein's own postulates, and it has been demonstrated experimentally with subatomic particles.

Time travel to the past has no experimental support.
 
  • #42
In a few centuries, or a few thousand years hence, the Earth will have revolved around the sun a commensurate number of times. The sun will have consumed billions of tons of hydrogen, having converted it into energy and radiated it into space.

To pretend that with some magic time machine, one can speed up all these processes everywhere in the universe simultaneously is the height of folly.

Going back in time would require restoring what once was. Can pre-World War II Berlin be rebuilt with this imaginary time machine?
Can Hitler's body be reconstructed from the very same atoms that once composed it, and are now spread out around the earth? But not only Hitler's, but everyone who was alive at that time.

This is almost as preposterous as the Multiverse Cockamamey.
 
  • #43
Seen some interesting connections here.

Now here are some possibilities that were not considered here. First clarify 2 things:
1. Time has direction - from "now" to "future"
2. Time has speed - 1 sec/sec for you at rest

What would be the implications(i.e. what paradoxes arise) of the following:
1. A speed of >1 sec/sec for you relative to the universe.
2. Reversing the direction time progression: not as in your general idea, like let's go from 2010 to 1939 and shoot Hitler, so WWII never happens without any time in between.
But rather in that state, for every second you age, everybody gets a second younger(and the other way around also).
 
  • #44
RenasontsMan said:
To pretend that with some magic time machine, one can speed up all these processes everywhere in the universe simultaneously is the height of folly.
Yes that would be folly. Luckily no one has suggested that except you.

RenasontsMan said:
Can Hitler's body be reconstructed from the very same atoms that once composed it, and are now spread out around the earth? But not only Hitler's, but everyone who was alive at that time.

This is almost as preposterous as the Multiverse Cockamamey.
Yes that is preposterous. Luckily no one has suggested that except you. (Not to mention completely misunderstanding the entire concept of 'backwards in time'.)


The lesson here is to debate what people are in fact saying, not your own fallacious ideas of the topic. These are both red herring fallacies.
 
  • #45
RenasontsMan said:
Going back in time would require restoring what once was. Can pre-World War II Berlin be rebuilt with this imaginary time machine?
Can Hitler's body be reconstructed from the very same atoms that once composed it, and are now spread out around the earth? But not only Hitler's, but everyone who was alive at that time.

So would this mean that everything in the current time would need to be destroyed? Or would it still exist?
 
  • #46
There is experimental evidence (such as the delayed choice quantum eraser) of reverse causality. If reverse causality can be proven and then used as a means of transmitting information backwards in time that in itself would be a certain form if time travel.
 
  • #47
It appears that any response that (A) is directed towards the OP's intent and (B) is based on currently accepted physics, was made early on in the thread.
 

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