Is Time Truly Infinite or Does It Have a Natural Limit?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the nature of time, specifically whether it is truly infinite or if it has a natural limit. Participants explore theoretical implications, quantum physics, and the relationship between time and space, with a focus on concepts such as the Planck minima and the potential for time to cease under certain conditions.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that time began with the possibility of change, implying that before this moment, time did not exist.
  • Another participant introduces the concept of Calabi-Yau manifolds, proposing that expansion and contraction may be indistinguishable beyond certain limits, relating to the idea of "wrap around."
  • A different viewpoint questions the logic of a timeless coordinate system, suggesting it contains circular reasoning.
  • One participant argues that time has a granularity defined by the Planck minima, and that once time stops, the concept of duration becomes meaningless.
  • Another participant reflects on the potential for time to stop, start, and slow down in different locations, depending on the curvature of space.
  • There is a discussion about quantum entanglement and its implications for communication across distances without violating the speed of light, suggesting that changes in quantum states do not consume time.
  • Some participants propose that when all quantum states become equivalent, the possibility of change ceases, leading to the conclusion that time would also stop.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on the nature of time, with no consensus reached. Some agree on the implications of quantum states and the Planck minima, while others challenge the interpretations and logic presented.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes various assumptions about the nature of time and quantum states, as well as the implications of different theoretical frameworks. Limitations in definitions and the scope of concepts like "wrap around" and "timelessness" are acknowledged but remain unresolved.

  • #31
nothing is perfect
in the space where nothing exists
will one find perfection
the perfect nothing


In the beginning, there was nothing and no possibility of change. How long this state lasted is a misleading question for without the possibility of change there can be no time, since time implies both 'before' and 'after'. Since there was no possibility of change, nothing can, or did happen.

time existed even though nothing changed and still it passed but nothing happened until something did and space was created making time relative to space...

...space then is something, even empty space is something compared to what was before

time then would be the first dimension, then at some point in time there was a tear between two points and suddenly it ripped forth into a sphere...

...I like the smoke too :-p
 

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