Is university physics much different from upper level mathematics?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the differences between university-level physics and upper-level mathematics, particularly in the context of a student's upcoming coursework in mechanics and calculus. Participants explore the nature of physics as it relates to mathematical concepts and the student's preparedness for the challenges ahead.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses uncertainty about the nature of university physics compared to mathematics, questioning whether the physics will be similar to calculus work.
  • Another participant asserts that physics is generally different from mathematics, suggesting that a strong mathematical background may not guarantee success in physics.
  • It is noted that for an introductory mechanics class, the mathematics involved may be straightforward for someone with a solid understanding of math, allowing focus on the physics concepts.
  • Some participants mention that mechanics involves applying concepts to solve problems, with the mathematics often being trivial if the physics is well understood.
  • There is a suggestion that students who enjoy practical applications, like electricity labs, may prefer physics, while those who favor pure mathematics might choose to focus on math courses instead.
  • Several posts discuss the student's educational background and current situation, with some participants questioning the accuracy of the student's claims about their institution.
  • One participant makes assumptions about the student's work ethic and potential success in physics, but acknowledges that these assumptions may not hold true.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that physics and mathematics are different disciplines, but there is no consensus on the implications of this difference for the student's ability to succeed in physics. Multiple viewpoints exist regarding the relationship between mathematical proficiency and success in physics.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express concerns about the student's honesty regarding their educational background, which may affect the advice given. The discussion also reflects varying assumptions about the student's capabilities and the nature of the courses they are taking.

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i haven't taken any U physics, i got A+ up to calculus II and B+ in linear algebra, I'm taking calculus III and ODE next semester, i also have to take Mechanics physics. How is this physics? i signed up for an accelerated 1st year physics course covering 2 semesters of work in one as well as the 2 math courses i mentioned and javascript. Will i be able to handle this calculus based physics is it similar to mathematics ie: Work in calculus, related rates etc... or is it much different? i took general chem and organic chem both parts and did Okay B+ average. is there more theory stuff in physics like chem ie:theories of quantum bonding? i took physics 12 a very long time ago in h.s. and i don't remember. will i be good at physics or... is it much different from math?
 
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Luongo said:
i haven't taken any U physics, i got A+ up to calculus II and B+ in linear algebra, I'm taking calculus III and ODE next semester, i also have to take Mechanics physics. How is this physics? i signed up for an accelerated 1st year physics course covering 2 semesters of work in one as well as the 2 math courses i mentioned and javascript. Will i be able to handle this calculus based physics is it similar to mathematics ie: Work in calculus, related rates etc... or is it much different? i took general chem and organic chem both parts and did Okay B+ average. is there more theory stuff in physics like chem ie:theories of quantum bonding? i took physics 12 a very long time ago in h.s. and i don't remember. will i be good at physics or... is it much different from math?

Generally speaking, yes physics is much different from mathematics. An inclination in one subject does not necessarily correlate to an inclination in the other.

That said, especially for an intro mechanics class, the mathematics will be very easy for you so you won't have to worry about that at all. So, at least you're going to be able to focus on the real physics rather than getting bogged down in the mathematics (which happens to an alarmingly high amount of students). It's impossible to say whether or not you'll do well, but if you feel you at least conceptually understood your high school physics class, I'd say you have a very good chance of doing well.
 
Mechanics will be more applying concepts to solve problems. The math is often trivial if you have a thorough understanding of the physics, assuming you already have a strong mathematical foundation. This may vary however.
 
If you enjoy electricity labs and want courses that use higher math, then you should choose physics. If you want either electricity or math but not both, then choose them instead.
 
Luongo said:
i'm taking calculus III and ODE next semester

You say you're at MIT. Do you mean the Massachusetts Institute of Technology? Or some other place. The reason I ask is that MIT doesn't offer three semesters of calculus. The standard sequence 18.01/18.02 covers it in two semesters.
 
Are you confusing posters, Vanadium? Luongo never said he was from MIT. In his "About Me" entries he says he is from Vancouver, which is where Douglas College is located.
 
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It's disappointing, when people lie about their situation. Luongo will get better advice if he was honest about his situation.
 
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Tsk tsk tsk...
 
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I'm going to make a few assumptions. You're a hard-working student. You've been accepted to MIT. Even if intro to physics seems completely foreign to you, I think you'll be fine. But if my assumptions are incorrect, then my post is useless.
 

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