Is Zeno's Paradox a Valid Argument Against Motion?

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The discussion revolves around Zeno's Paradox, specifically whether it presents a valid argument against the concept of motion. Participants explore the implications of infinite divisibility in relation to distance and motion, examining both philosophical and mathematical perspectives.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that Zeno's argument implies that a distance of 1 meter consists of infinitely many points, each having a size of zero, leading to the conclusion that the distance itself has zero size.
  • Another participant acknowledges the concept of dividing distances into smaller points but argues that while the limit approaches zero, it never actually reaches it, suggesting a practical approach to measuring distance.
  • A third participant distinguishes between different paradoxes, indicating that the paradox of infinite divisibility is separate from the race paradox specifically attributed to Zeno.
  • One participant dismisses Zeno's paradox as flawed mathematics that does not reflect reality, asserting that it is not a valid argument against motion and suggesting that the discussion should be limited.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the validity of Zeno's paradox, with some defending its philosophical implications while others reject it as invalid. The discussion remains unresolved with competing perspectives on the nature of motion and infinity.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved assumptions regarding the interpretation of infinity and the implications of dividing distances, as well as the philosophical versus mathematical perspectives on Zeno's arguments.

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Zeno said that you can't finish or start a race because there is an infinty of points between any two points.

Let's take a distance of say 1meter. As per zeno there is an infinity of points in this distance.

So, what is the size of each of these points. Of course, 1/infinity=0. i.e. each point has a zero size.

In other words, the distance of 1m has zero size... ( because whole is at least the sum of its parts if not anything else).

Seen from this viewpoint, is this paradox valid?
 
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I know limit 1/infinity = very close to 0. I.e you can divide into smaller and smaller points but it's never actually 0, because that's not a point.

I may be wrong but that's so small that it hardly has a meaning 'in our world'. So I would solve this by dividing the metre in a measurable quantity. Otherwise you'll never be able to compute a distance because you'll be dividing forever.

This is probably an antiphilosophical approach but I don't know other way to tackle it.
 
Zeno's paradox has been little more than bad math since it was proposed and obviously never has reflected reality since we can and do actually move. It most certainly is not valid. And by this point in time it has reached the level of crackpottery, so we're restricting discussion of it. Please just read one of the older threads on it.

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