Isothermal process involving changes in Volume and Pressure

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The discussion centers on the isothermal process involving changes in volume and pressure for a diver's lungs as they ascend from a depth of 21 meters. The initial pressure (P1) is 2 bar (absolute pressure of 3 bar), and the initial volume (V1) is 5.1L. As the diver ascends to a surface pressure (P2) of 1 bar, calculations show that the final volume (V2) of the lungs would expand to 10.2L if only gauge pressure is considered. However, when using absolute pressures, V2 calculates to 15.3L, highlighting the importance of accounting for absolute pressure in such scenarios.

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Homework Statement
Equipped diver is at the depth of 21 m, where the pressure is 2,1 bar. The diver breathes air that is pressurized to 2 bar. What would the final lung capacity be if the diver held their breath while ascending to the surface? diver lung capacity is 5.1 L and temperature is constant
Relevant Equations
p1v1=p2v2
P1 = 2 bar V1 = 5.1L P2= 1bar

V2 = V1P1/P2 = 10,2L, so the volume of gas would double?

or should the absolute pressure be taken into account

P1= 2bar (3bar absolute), V1=5.1L P2= 1 bar

V2 = 15,3L?
 
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dbag123 said:
Homework Statement:: Equipped diver is at the depth of 21 m, where the pressure is 2,1 bar.
This is incorrect. Each 10 m adds roughly one bar. Since pressure at the surface is 1 bar, pressure at 21 m would be around 3.1 bar, not 2.1.
 
but what about the solution? air in lungs 2bar. diver swims to surface where the pressure is 1bar, the lungs would expand from 5.1 to 10.2L. is it wrong?
 
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dbag123 said:
or should the absolute pressure be taken into account
dbag123 said:
but what about the solution? air in lungs 2bar. diver swims to surface where the pressure is 1bar, the lungs would expand from 5.1 to 10.2L. is it wrong?
Can you work the problem using absolute pressures? What do you get for a solution then?
 
berkeman said:
Can you work the problem using absolute pressures? What do you get for a solution then?
P1= 2 bar (3 bar absolute), V1=5.1L P2= 1 bar

V2 = 15,3L

the problem i am having is if the pressure of air in lungs (2 bar) is important or the pressure outside of the diver 3,1 bar(abs)
 
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