Isothermal process involving changes in Volume and Pressure

In summary, the pressure at a depth of 21m would be around 3.1 bar, not 2.1 bar. When the diver swims to the surface where the pressure is 1 bar, the volume of air in the lungs would increase from 5.1L to 15.3L if absolute pressures are taken into account. The problem is determining which pressure (2 bar or 3.1 bar) is important when calculating the volume change.
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dbag123
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Homework Statement
Equipped diver is at the depth of 21 m, where the pressure is 2,1 bar. The diver breathes air that is pressurized to 2 bar. What would the final lung capacity be if the diver held their breath while ascending to the surface? diver lung capacity is 5.1 L and temperature is constant
Relevant Equations
p1v1=p2v2
P1 = 2 bar V1 = 5.1L P2= 1bar

V2 = V1P1/P2 = 10,2L, so the volume of gas would double?

or should the absolute pressure be taken into account

P1= 2bar (3bar absolute), V1=5.1L P2= 1 bar

V2 = 15,3L?
 
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dbag123 said:
Homework Statement:: Equipped diver is at the depth of 21 m, where the pressure is 2,1 bar.
This is incorrect. Each 10 m adds roughly one bar. Since pressure at the surface is 1 bar, pressure at 21 m would be around 3.1 bar, not 2.1.
 
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but what about the solution? air in lungs 2bar. diver swims to surface where the pressure is 1bar, the lungs would expand from 5.1 to 10.2L. is it wrong?
 
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dbag123 said:
or should the absolute pressure be taken into account
dbag123 said:
but what about the solution? air in lungs 2bar. diver swims to surface where the pressure is 1bar, the lungs would expand from 5.1 to 10.2L. is it wrong?
Can you work the problem using absolute pressures? What do you get for a solution then?
 
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berkeman said:
Can you work the problem using absolute pressures? What do you get for a solution then?
P1= 2 bar (3 bar absolute), V1=5.1L P2= 1 bar

V2 = 15,3L

the problem i am having is if the pressure of air in lungs (2 bar) is important or the pressure outside of the diver 3,1 bar(abs)
 
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1. What is an isothermal process involving changes in volume and pressure?

An isothermal process is a thermodynamic process in which the temperature remains constant. Involving changes in volume and pressure means that the volume and pressure of the system are changing while the temperature remains constant.

2. How is an isothermal process involving changes in volume and pressure different from other thermodynamic processes?

Unlike adiabatic or isobaric processes, an isothermal process involves a constant temperature. This means that the heat energy added or removed from the system is equal to the work done on or by the system, resulting in a constant internal energy.

3. What is the ideal gas law and how is it related to an isothermal process involving changes in volume and pressure?

The ideal gas law, PV = nRT, describes the relationship between pressure (P), volume (V), temperature (T), and the number of moles of gas (n). For an isothermal process, the temperature remains constant, so the ideal gas law can be simplified to PV = constant. This shows that as the volume decreases, the pressure increases, and vice versa.

4. How does an isothermal process involving changes in volume and pressure occur in real-life systems?

An isothermal process involving changes in volume and pressure can occur in systems where the temperature can be kept constant, such as in a container of gas that is in contact with a heat source or sink. It can also occur in systems where the gas is allowed to expand or compress slowly enough that the temperature remains relatively constant.

5. What are some applications of an isothermal process involving changes in volume and pressure?

An isothermal process involving changes in volume and pressure is commonly used in refrigeration systems, where the compression and expansion of gases allow for the transfer of heat. It is also used in the production of compressed air, as well as in the design of engines and turbines.

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