It seems like it's simple math but I'm not sure?

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The discussion revolves around a temperature calculation problem involving mixing two liquids: a cup of coffee at 90°C and cold water at 10°C. Participants are exploring the implications of temperature scales and the concept of temperature change.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Some participants question the appropriate temperature scale for calculations, while others discuss the implications of averaging temperatures. There is also a focus on understanding the physical meaning of temperature in relation to the problem.

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The discussion is active, with participants offering hints and questioning assumptions. There is an exploration of the concept of averages in the context of temperature, and some guidance has been provided regarding the relevance of temperature change calculations.

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Participants note that the final temperature must fall within a specific range, and there is an emphasis on the need for a physical understanding of temperature in addition to mathematical calculations.

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Homework Statement
A 300 g cup of coffee at 90°C is too hot to drink, so a person puts in a 30 g of cold water at 10ºC. What will the final temperature be? (Hint: you don't actually have to calculate, think about the range the temp would have to be in)
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I dont believe there is one. I tried just simple math but it seems to good to be true
I don't believe there is one. I tried just simple math but it seems to good to be true.
 
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There is a relevant equation. Can you name it?
 
Which temperature scale should you use when calculating the new temperature? :wink:

Edit/Update -- As long as you are just calculating the *change* in temperature from mixing the two liquid samples, then I don't think it matters if you think about it in terms of Celsius or Kelvin. When finding the ##\Delta T## change in temperature the results should be the same.
 
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Start with the realization suggested by the hint: the final temperature cannot be greater than 90°C or less than 10°C. It has to be in-between, i.e. some kind of average. What kind of average? If I gave a test and 300 students got a score of 90 and 30 students got a score of 10, what would the average score be?

It's amazing how something familiar becomes unfamiliar when seen in a new context, isn't it?
 
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lesdayy said:
Homework Statement:: A 300 g cup of coffee at 90°C is too hot to drink, so a person puts in a 30 g of cold water at 10ºC. What will the final temperature be? (Hint: you don't actually have to calculate ...
I don't really agree with this. You need a physical understanding of what is temperature and some mathematics to support that model. The calculations may be easy once you have those things, but everything is linear!
 

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