MHB Jackpot Calculation: Solving the 6-Dice Game Problem

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The discussion focuses on calculating the optimal jackpot size for a 6-dice game where players win if they roll at least five of the same value. The cost to play is 50 cents, and any unclaimed money contributes to the jackpot. Participants analyze the probability of winning based on the number of dice and the payout structure. Correct solutions were provided by members, with MarkFL offering a detailed calculation. The conversation emphasizes the importance of balancing the jackpot size with the odds of winning to ensure the game remains appealing to players.
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This problem comes from a game I saw in a restaurant while visiting Montana recently.

A game costs 50 cents to play. You are given 6 dice and roll them all at once. If you get at least 5 of the same value, you win the jackpot. If you don't, your 50 cents is added to the jackpot. How big should the jackpot be in order for this to be a good bet?
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Congratulations to the following members for their correct solutions:

1) MarkFL

Solution (from MarkFL):
We want the jackpot amount $J$ to be equal to or greater than that value for which the expected gain $E$ is zero. Thus, to find this amount, we may use:

$$E=-0.5\cdot P(\text{lose})+J\cdot P(\text{win})\ge0$$

(1) $$J\ge\frac{P(\text{lose})}{2\cdot P(\text{win})}$$

To find the probability of winning, we may compute the number of ways $N$ to win as follows

There are six ways to get a six of a kind, one for each rank.

For a five of a kind, there are six ranks that can match, five choices for the odd die and six places for the odd die to be in the array, hence:

$$N=6+6\cdot6\cdot5=6\cdot31$$

The total number of outcomes $T$ is:

$$T=6^6$$

Hence, we obtain:

$$P(\text{win})=\frac{N}{T}=\frac{6\cdot31}{6^6}= \frac{31}{6^5}$$

Using the fact that it is certain that we will either win or lose, we may write:

$$P(\text{lose})+P(\text{win})=1$$

$$P(\text{lose})=1-P(\text{win})=1-\frac{31}{6^5}=\frac{7745}{6^5}$$

Now, plugging the win/lose probabilities into (1), there results:

$$J\ge\frac{\frac{7745}{6^5}}{2\cdot\frac{31}{6^5}}=\frac{7745}{62}\approx124.92$$

Since the jackpot amount will only be a multiple of 50 cents, we then find the jackpot should be at least \$125.00 in order for the bet to statistically be a good one.

Extra comments:
What MarkFL did can also be represented by treating this as a binomial random variable. The probability of 5 1's is: $$\binom{6}{5}\left[\frac{1}{6}\right]^5 \left[\frac{5}{6} \right]^1$$

This should be multiplied by 6 to account for the values 1-6.

To calculate the probability of all 1's we can write it as: $$\binom{6}{6}\left[\frac{1}{6}\right]^6 \left[\frac{5}{6} \right]^0=\left[ \frac{1}{6} \right]^6$$

This should also be multiplied by 6 to account for the values 1-6.

This will lead to the same answer as MarkFL submitted and really is the same method, although presented slightly differently.
 

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