Jacobson Radical and Direct Sums - Bland, Proposition 6.1.4

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The discussion revolves around understanding Proposition 6.1.4 from Paul E. Bland's book "Rings and Their Modules," specifically the application of canonical injections to the Jacobson radical of direct sums of modules. Participants seek clarification on the implications of Exercise 3 in this context.

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  • Peter expresses confusion regarding the application of canonical injections to the Jacobson radical, questioning the necessity of Exercise 3 in understanding this relationship.
  • One participant explains that for any homomorphism between modules, the image of the Jacobson radical of the first module is contained within the Jacobson radical of the second module, applying this to the specific case of the canonical injections.
  • This participant further clarifies that the inclusion holds for both modules involved in the direct sum, leading to the conclusion that the Jacobson radicals of the individual modules are included in the Jacobson radical of the direct sum.
  • Another participant questions the phrasing of a previous statement regarding the kernel of a homomorphism, suggesting a clarification on whether it is a maximal proper submodule or the whole module.
  • There is a curiosity expressed about the case when a module has no proper maximal submodules, with one participant stating that in such cases, the Jacobson radical is equal to the module itself.

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Participants exhibit a mix of understanding and confusion regarding the application of the canonical injections to the Jacobson radical, with some clarifications provided but no consensus reached on all aspects of the discussion.

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Participants reference Exercise 3 and its proof, indicating that there may be unresolved steps or assumptions that affect the understanding of the application of canonical injections to the Jacobson radical.

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I am reading Paul E. Bland's book, "Rings and Their Modules".

I am focused on Section 6.1 The Jacobson Radical ... ...

I need help with the proof of Proposition 6.1.4 ...Proposition 6.1.4 and its proof read as follows:
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In the above proof from Bland we read:"... ... If ##i_1 \ : \ M_1 \longrightarrow M_1 \oplus M_2## and ##i_2 \ : \ M_2 \longrightarrow M_1 \oplus M_2## are the canonical injections, then (a) of Exercise 3 shows that

##i_k \ : \ \text{ Rad}(M_k) \longrightarrow \text{ Rad}(M_1 \oplus M_2)## ... ...

... ... ... "
My question/problem/issue is that I cannot understand the meaning of the statement that (a) of Exercise 3 shows that

##i_k \ : \ \text{ Rad}(M_k) \longrightarrow \text{ Rad}(M_1 \oplus M_2)## ... ...How, exactly, do the canonical injections ##i_k## apply to ##\text{ Rad}(M_k)## and ##\text{ Rad}(M_1 \oplus M_2)## ... ...

Is it trivially simple in that ##\text{ Rad}(M_k)## is a set of elements of ##M_k## and so the canonical injection operates as usual? But then... why do we need Exercise 3?

Can someone explain in simple terms ... ... exactly what is going on ...

Peter

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NOTE ... ... The above post refers to Exercise 3 of Bland, Section 6.1 so I am providing the text of that example ... as follows:
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Math Amateur said:
In the above proof from Bland we read:
"... ... If ##i_1 \ : \ M_1 \longrightarrow M_1 \oplus M_2## and ##i_2 \ : \ M_2 \longrightarrow M_1 \oplus M_2## are the canonical injections, then (a) of Exercise 3 shows that

##i_k \ : \ \text{ Rad}(M_k) \longrightarrow \text{ Rad}(M_1 \oplus M_2)## ... ..."

My question/problem/issue is that I cannot understand the meaning of the statement that (a) of Exercise 3 shows that

##i_k \ : \ \text{ Rad}(M_k) \longrightarrow \text{ Rad}(M_1 \oplus M_2)## ... ...

How, exactly, do the canonical injections ##i_k## apply to ##\text{ Rad}(M_k)## and ##\text{ Rad}(M_1 \oplus M_2)## ... ...
Hi Peter,

it is a direct application of the statement in exercise 3.
For any ##R-##homomorphism ##f\, : \,M \rightarrow N## of ##R-##modules we have ##f(rad(M)) \subseteq rad(N)##.

Now chose ##M:=M_1\, , \,N:=M_1\oplus M_2\, , \,f := \iota_1 \, , \,M_1 \subseteq M_1\oplus M_2## and ex.3 says ##\iota_1(rad(M_1)) = rad(M_1) \subseteq rad(M_1\oplus M_2)##
The same goes of course for ##M_2## and ##\iota_2(rad(M_2)) = rad(M_2) \subseteq rad(M_1\oplus M_2)##
Therefore ##rad(M_1) \oplus rad (M_2) \subseteq rad(M_1\oplus M_2)##.

For the proof of exercise 3 with ##f## an ##R-##homomorphism ##f\, : \,M \rightarrow N## of ##R-##modules we consider an arbitrary maximal submodule ##N' \subsetneq N## and the projection ##\pi\, : \,N \twoheadrightarrow N/N'## onto the simple module ##N/N'## and the map ##\varphi := \pi \circ f\, : \, M \rightarrow N/N'\,.## Then we must show that ##M':=ker \varphi## is a maximal submodule of ##M## and thus contains ##rad(M)\,.## If you haven't done it already you should try to prove it and fill the gaps in my outline.
 
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just a guess, in the next to last line, did you mean: "kerphi is either a maximal (proper) submodule of M or the whole module M" ?by the way, just curious, if a module M has no proper maximal submodules, is the jacobson radical equal to M?
 
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mathwonk said:
just a guess, in the next to last line, did you mean: "kerphi is either a maximal (proper) submodule of M or the whole module M" ?
I did not mention this special case, yes.
##rad (M) \subseteq M = ker \varphi \Rightarrow \varphi =0 \Rightarrow \varphi(rad(M)) = \{0\} \Rightarrow f(rad(M)) \subseteq ker(\pi) = N'\,.##
and the rest of the argument is the same as in the case ##M'\subsetneq M\,.##
by the way, just curious, if a module M has no proper maximal submodules, is the jacobson radical equal to M?
Yes, by convention. We've had an interesting discussion of this case here:
https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/jacobson-radical-and-rad-m-bland-corollary-6-1-3.898836/
 
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