Job opportunties for physicists in the UK?

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The discussion revolves around job opportunities for physicists in the UK, particularly focusing on the prospects for graduates with and without advanced degrees such as a master's. Participants share personal experiences and concerns regarding employment in the field of physics versus other disciplines like engineering.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses concern about low employment rates for physics graduates, citing statistics that suggest only about 15% secure jobs as scientists or researchers, with improved prospects for those holding a master's degree.
  • Another participant suggests that the negative posts about job prospects may not represent the overall situation, noting that people tend to share their struggles more than their successes in forums.
  • A later reply emphasizes the importance of ensuring good employment chances when investing in a second degree, particularly for mature students who are self-funding their education.
  • One participant warns against pursuing fundamental physics research in the UK, claiming that the current environment is unsupportive and politically charged, with a focus on grants rather than genuine research support.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on job prospects in physics, with some highlighting concerns about the current job market and others suggesting that negative perceptions may be skewed. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the overall employment landscape for physics graduates in the UK.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention varying statistics and personal experiences, indicating that the discussion is influenced by individual circumstances and perceptions of the job market. There are unresolved questions about the impact of advanced degrees on employability.

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I've been considering studying physics in the UK but looking at the threads here has me a little worried about job opportunities afterwards. Does the same apply abroad, specifically in the UK? I did a search on employment prospects through

http://www.unistats.com

and was so depressed at how few end up as scientists or researchers, maybe 15%. The stats improve hugely with a masters though, between 25-60%. Ok not so unexpected, the universities all say you can get any kind of job with the analytical skills a physics degree will give you, but they recommend a masters is necessary to stay in science, which I would be prepared to do.

I was just wondering if anyone had any personal experiences in the UK or could give me a broad view about job opportunities with and without a masters?

I already have a degree in business. I would love to study physics but not if it means ending up with a career as a banker at the end of it! It makes more sense to study engineering in the long run. It's just that doing the pre-uni course I'm doing now, my heart is breaking a bit at all the stuff I'm going to miss out on, like theoretical physics and astronomy, if I stick with engineering.
 
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snkk197 said:
I've been considering studying physics in the UK but looking at the threads here has me a little worried about job opportunities afterwards.

Well, keep in mind, when someone is desperate and has no job, they don't hesitate to post places looking for solutions.

When they get their dream job, they rarely go to forums to celebrate.

This isn't to say things are looking good out there, but I don't think we're getting a good random sample here.
 
Thanks, I'll certainly keep that in mind. I suppose I shouldn't let all the threads get me down about the idea of studying for a physics degree. But I'm applying as a mature student, and I'm paying for another degree out of my own pocket, so I want to be sure I'll have a good chance of employment with a MEng or an MSci in the UK, I don't think I'll get another chance after this.
 
Given the current climate for fundamental physics research in the UK right now, you want to avoid it at all costs. Because even if you do get a job as a researcher, you will get no encouragement or support from the government. And the UK scientific community is extremely partisan, political and unsupportive, and frankly cares more about grants and links with industry than it does on actual physics research.
 

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