John Podesta's greatest regret - government silence on UFOs

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John Podesta, a former counselor to President Obama and a key figure in Hillary Clinton's campaign, expressed regret over not disclosing UFO information during his tenure. His longstanding interest in UFOs has been evident since his time as chief of staff under Bill Clinton, where he advocated for transparency regarding government investigations into UFOs. Podesta's recent comments have sparked discussions about the implications of his beliefs on his judgment and the credibility of the political figures he associates with, including Obama and Clinton. Critics question whether Podesta's fascination with UFOs undermines his professionalism, while others argue that such interests do not necessarily impact one's ability to perform in high-ranking positions. The conversation also touches on broader themes of belief in extraordinary claims, the nature of evidence, and the public's right to know about government secrets. The debate reveals a divide between those who view Podesta's comments as eccentric and those who see them as part of a legitimate inquiry into unexplained phenomena.
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gjonesy said:
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Personal Note:
BTW the thing I saw that was unexplainable was an object, that could be seen with the naked eye didn't appear to be well lit and had no light on it but was reflecting ambient light. The moon was very bright that night. It traversed the night sky from north to south in just a few seconds and made no sound. It was witnessed by another LEO. We inquired as to what it could have been and were told the International space station was visible with the naked eye and could fly that fast across the sky. Is this true?...just wondering.

When I was in the Army, I pulled guard duty 1200 to 0400 hrs. We were on FTX at the NTC in Fort Irwin (Mojave). You could see the space station, but it looked like a large star, and took several minutes to traverse the observable sky.
 
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Kevin McHugh said:
Your bias is showing. I'm sure there are Christian Democrats too.
And your bias is showing. I'm a Christian and most of us are not young earthers. The Roman Catholic Church (our largest denomination) never rejected Darwinism, etc. (Humani Generis, 1950)

Oddly young Earth beliefs have been dropping among Republicans. This might be the result of demographic shifts raising the possibility that the Republican party is losing the fundamentalists.
 
  • #63
Kevin McHugh said:
Your bias is showing. I'm sure there are Christian Democrats too.

I didn't say "Christian", I said "Young Earth creationist". Of course there are Christian Democrats, but creationism is overwhelmingly a Republican cause.
 
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Please confine your remarks to the topic, gentlemen.
 
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Dotini said:
Please confine your remarks to the topic, gentlemen.

Sorry Dotini, still trying to get a feel for the forums. Unlike so many others, it seems this site is well disciplined.
 
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  • #66
gjonesy said:
,Yeah very true, but once again motives for classification especially in aircraft could very well be in place for reasons of national security. Hypothetically let's say we had a drone we could deploy, that was invisible to radar had weapons/surveillance capabilities could fly at 70,000 feet, that could hover and fly in all directions and fly at mach 13 when it needs to allude a pursuing aircraft. And it was purpose built not to be identifiable and could be destroyed remotely and leave no trace that it ever existed? This is something you wouldn't want on the six o:clock news seeing as how foreign countries both allies and enemies monitor us this way. And if Podesta isn't in the need to know or have clearance to such things he may only be aware of what's been reported. I know for a fact the government keeps secrets from government officials without clearance.
All obviously true and the alternative I would consider most likely, rather than the notion an authentic alien craft is being kept somewhere being reverse engineered. Or that alien bodies exist somewhere.
 
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zoobyshoe said:
All obviously true and the alternative I would consider most likely, rather than the notion an authentic alien craft is being kept somewhere being reverse engineered. Or that alien bodies exist somewhere.

Mach 13 super sonic stealth spy drone with recon/attack capabilities would definitely be above John Podesta's pay grade, but wouldn't they just tell him something just to shut him up? To keep the peace and preserve the continuity of government so that he appears competent? I agree totally ! that is a big possibility, there is something buzzing around out there at night ,its probably man made and has the occasional witness and I am probably one of them. BUT there are "phenomena" like dotini spoke of that the government has investigated and released Laughable conclusions,...case in point "Brown Mountain Lights". I've never seen them but my folks have, what they describe couldn't have been swamp gas or moon light reflected off of fog.
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gjonesy said:
...case in point "Brown Mountain Lights". I've never seen them but my folks have, what they describe couldn't have been swamp gas or moon light reflected off of fog.
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They've never been able to explain the Marfa lights in TX either. There are no swamps between San Antonio and El Paso..
 
  • #69
gjonesy said:
"Brown Mountain Lights"
Kevin McHugh said:
Marfa lights
Even more credible recurring unexplained natural phenomena are the Hessdalen lights of Norway, investigated in situ for years by European scientists and university students.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hessdalen_lights
http://www.hessdalen.org/index_e.shtml
http://www.hessdalen.org/reports/hpreport84.shtml
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Oy. Those are among the worst types of "UFO"sightings, IMO - right up there with mistaking Venus or an airplane for a UFO...because those have pretty much been conclusively proven to be car headlights and aircraft lights.

I think this thread has run its course and we don't do "debunk this UFO photo" threads. Locked.
 

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