Josephson Effect: AC vs. DC Explained

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The discussion focuses on the differences between the AC and DC Josephson effects, exploring their definitions, conditions for occurrence, and the role of magnetic fields and potentials. Participants express varying levels of understanding and seek clarification on these phenomena, which are rooted in superconductivity and quantum mechanics.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant asks for a simple explanation of the differences between the AC and DC Josephson effects, expressing difficulty in understanding the concepts without a strong background in quantum mechanics.
  • Another participant suggests that the questions resemble homework and recommends consulting textbooks, asserting that simple circuit models can suffice for understanding the effects.
  • A participant clarifies that both effects occur when two superconductors are separated by a thin insulator and mentions Cooper pairs, but struggles to grasp the distinction between the processes.
  • Some participants explain that the DC Josephson effect relates the current through the junction to the phase difference, while the AC effect relates the voltage to the time derivative of the phase, indicating that they are not separate phenomena.
  • One participant expresses confusion about the behavior of the system when a small potential is applied before reaching a critical potential, seeking clarification on this transitional state.
  • Questions arise regarding the mathematical derivations associated with the DC and AC Josephson effects, including the relationship between electron probability density and tunneling frequency, as well as the role of potential in the AC effect derivation.
  • A suggestion is made to refer to the "Feynman Lectures" for an easier explanation of the concepts.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the distinctions between the AC and DC Josephson effects, and there are multiple competing views regarding the explanations and mathematical derivations involved. The discussion remains unresolved with respect to the clarity of the concepts and the specific conditions under which each effect occurs.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the definitions and implications of the Josephson effects, and there are unresolved questions regarding the mathematical relationships and the role of potential in the phenomena. The discussion reflects varying levels of familiarity with the underlying physics and mathematics.

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Hello,
What exactly is the difference between ac Josephson Effect and DC Jsephson effect?When does each occur?What is the relevence of magnetic field here?In which cases are potentials applied?I tried to find the answer in the net,but couldn't find any satisfactory explanations.I have not begun to study quantum mechanics in detail.Can someone help me?Please explain in simple terms.

PS:Equations are not very important as far as I am concerned.I just want to get an idea about the phenomenon.
 
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This sounds a bit like homework. Your questions are quite general but the answers are easy to find.
Have you tried looking in a textbook? E.g. Tinkham or Waldram.

Btw. You don't really need QM at all in order to understand the answers to your questions, simple circuit models will do.
 
f95toli said:
This sounds a bit like homework. Your questions are quite general but the answers are easy to find.
Have you tried looking in a textbook? E.g. Tinkham or Waldram.

Btw. You don't really need QM at all in order to understand the answers to your questions, simple circuit models will do.

Its not homework.I didn't understand the lecture in my class.I have only bits of info.I think by what I understand,
Both phenomenon occur when two superconductors are separated by an extremely thin insulator.
Also that electons penetrate the insulators in pairs called cooper pairs.

But I cannot understand the distinction between the processes.I tried a textbook,but it gives a vague answer in terms of quantum mechanics,in relation with something called a SQUID.
 
The DC and AC Josephson "effects" are more or less just the name of the two Josephson equations, they are not really separate phenomena.
The DC Josephson effect (tehj 1st equation) tells you that the current through the junction depends on the phase difference across it, and the AC Josephson effect (the 2nd equation) relates the voltage across the junction depends to the time derivative of the phase.

Look at e.g the wiki for the Josephson effect.
 
f95toli said:
The DC and AC Josephson "effects" are more or less just the name of the two Josephson equations, they are not really separate phenomena.
The DC Josephson effect (tehj 1st equation) tells you that the current through the junction depends on the phase difference across it, and the AC Josephson effect (the 2nd equation) relates the voltage across the junction depends to the time derivative of the phase.

Look at e.g the wiki for the Josephson effect.

Thank you.I didn't know that they related to the same phenomenon.
 
f95toli said:
The DC and AC Josephson "effects" are more or less just the name of the two Josephson equations, they are not really separate phenomena.
The DC Josephson effect (tehj 1st equation) tells you that the current through the junction depends on the phase difference across it, and the AC Josephson effect (the 2nd equation) relates the voltage across the junction depends to the time derivative of the phase.

Look at e.g the wiki for the Josephson effect.

Just to be clear on this,
DC josephson effect:Occurs when there is no ptential difference,and cuttent varies between -I to I
AC Josephson effect:Occurs when the applied potential crosses a critical potential,Vc

I am still unclear about what occurs in between the time when a small potential is applied,and then it rises to Vc..

Please tell me where I am wrong.

Also,in the derivation of DC josephson tunnelling,

we see:
i(h/2π)(∂φ/∂t)=Eφ

But,when applied to electron probability density in semiconductor 1,this becomes:
i(h/2π)(∂φ1/∂t)=(h/2π)Tφ2
where T is the tunnelling frequency.

IS Eφ1 equal to (h/2π)Tφ2?
(We just studied the derivation,an explanation was not given..)

Also, in the derivation of AC josephson effect,there is an extra term -eVφ1.
Where V is the potential.
Wy is the potential term subtracted?Doesn't the potential support the flow of electron pairs across the junction?
 
An easy explanation can be found also in the "Feynman Lectures".
 
Thank you
 

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