Jovian Moons: Is a Small Jovian a Moon of a Larger One?

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A small jovian can indeed be a moon of a larger jovian, although this scenario is rare and requires specific conditions for stability. The discussion highlights that a smaller jovian must have a mass less than approximately 1/25th of the larger jovian to maintain a stable Trojan orbit. Additionally, the possibility of jovian binary planets is mentioned, where one jovian could orbit a brown dwarf. Detection methods for such configurations remain a topic of interest among astronomers.

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My guess is that a small jovian can be a moon of a much larger jovian. Is this likely, and how would we detect it?

Just something I've never seen before. It seems that the assumption is that all moons of jovian planets are terrestrial.

Also possible are jovian binary planets, but I'm talking about where it is clear that one jovian is a moon of another.Thoughts?
 
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FtlIsAwesome said:
My guess is that a small jovian can be a moon of a much larger jovian. Is this likely, and how would we detect it?

Just something I've never seen before. It seems that the assumption is that all moons of jovian planets are terrestrial.

Also possible are jovian binary planets, but I'm talking about where it is clear that one jovian is a moon of another.


Thoughts?

Trojan planet captured from a common orbit maybe? The lesser planet has to mass less than ~1/25 (IIRC) the larger planet to be in a stable Trojan orbit. Any more and their mutual attraction becomes just too much perturbation for the arrangement to be stable and they end up on "walking orbits" that ultimately interact. A super-jovian and a Neptune would work just nicely, so long as enough energy can be dissipated during their close encounter for capture.

Plus there's no reason why jovians can't orbit brown dwarfs. Some super-jovians might be runtish brown dwarfs that migrated inwards.
 

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